Jesus in Baghdad Why we should keep Franklin Graham out of Iraq.

Slate ^ | April 11, 2003 | Steven Waldman

[nmh]

Sounds like a plan to me:

"Graham is also, he says, "poised and ready" to send representatives of the charity he runs to Iraq as soon as possible. His primary purpose is humanitarian aid—providing food and shelter—but he also admits, "I believe as we work, God will always give us opportunities to tell others about his Son. … We are there to reach out to love them and to save them, and as a Christian, I do this in the name of Jesus Christ."

[nmh]

More sloop from another relative Christian hater.

I say, go for it! Even their muslim bretheran didn' tcare enough to help them and liberate them from saddam. No, it was a Judeo Christian nation that liberated them from this evil man. Yeah the "infidele" did this evil deed - liberated Iraq from pure evil.

Sounds like a plan to me:

"Graham is also, he says, "poised and ready" to send representatives of the charity he runs to Iraq as soon as possible. His primary purpose is humanitarian aid—providing food and shelter—but he also admits, "I believe as we work, God will always give us opportunities to tell others about his Son. … We are there to reach out to love them and to save them, and as a Christian, I do this in the name of Jesus Christ."

[nmh]

Hate to ask but is the author, Steven Waldman a realtion to the two Jewish people who objected to using Christs name in prayer rather than the Jewish acceptable name God?

[nmh]

"What Graham is doing probably isn't illegal; it's merely immoral.

To some the info. about eternal life is considered immoral. Especially amnogst the godless.

[swheats]

I was just reading an article from Slate.com. I was surprised that he quoted the trifecta of liberal screed using New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2081459/

[skr]

I won't disagree with you on what the Muslims will do, but I can hope that they'll at least try to be more even-handed in their government. We'll see. Personally, I have no problem with the Kurds having their own country.

And not all of them are savages, as evinced by those who helped the POWs. It won't be easy, that's for certain.

[skr]

I must've done a terrible job explaining my position. I've read and re-read what I wrote and I can only come up with the omission of a word or three making you think I was agreeing with the author. I emphatically don't. I'll try again:

Funny how (Franklin Graham's) telling the truth becomes (Islam-)bashing. Let the Iraqis determine whether or not they'll accept the aid and the message. We, including the author, all know that the aid won't be withheld if the message is rejected. (Franklin Graham loves people and wants to help them. He knows that Christian testimony is alive in actions and has plenty of experience in various countries doing what God has called him to do. May God guide the organization's steps.)

I hope that clarifies my previous reply.

[chuckles]

..."they are going to vote for sharia law"....

We have many laws that are similar to sharia, only we have more mercy. They are against thievery, murder, and such, they just follow thru with the "law". The Bible says an adulterer should be stoned. So many of our judges are guilty of the same crime, who would cast the first stone? We also have laws against the cruel and unusual, so cutting off hands and feet, or eye gouging are out.

One of the facinating things about this war is all the liars and thieves that are so fanatical about their religion, an infidel is not allowed in their mosque. After prayers on Friday, they steal a couch, rape a woman on it, and then lie when they got caught. This is definatly a "piece" of a religion.( Or was that a religion of peace?) They probably lie about that too.

[TomSmedley]

But not now.

If not now, then when? Islam is a fragile desert flower, that can only survive behind a firewall. In a society that embraces freedom of religion and open discussion, Islam loses credibility. I like Ann Coulter's succinct recipe for peace: "Invade their countries. Kill their leaders. Convert their people to Christianity."

[TomSmedley]

Religious freedom, hopefully, will come in time in the region ...

Not by itself and not on its own. Think of post-war Japan and the disestablishment of the formal emperor cult.

[Triple_R]

zarf - "Bible-thumpers"? I can't believe that I'm finding such anti-Christian sentiment on a conservative board. Do you think that this is a fair way to characterize Christians?

willyboyishere - "Christian evangelists to try to "convert" a population that is basically secular..."

Why do you put convert in qoutation marks? Do you think that genuine conversion is impossible?
Furthermore, if the population is basically secular, wouldn't that merely increase the need for conversion to a non-secular way of thinking?
Finally, I'm confused by what you mean by "secular" - are you actually saying that the Iraqi's are "basically atheists"? The stats don't seem to bare that out...

[DED]

I really don't believe the Iraqis will object much to Graham's help even coupled with his evangelism. If there is an outcry, it will come from the Islamic fundamentalist states.

Anyway, I don't think a Christian could stand in front of Christ and say, "I didn't do anything in Iraq because I was afraid it would make Islamic fundamentalists mad".

I know to anyone who isn't a Christian, this argument doesn't mean much, but a true Christian MUST consider whether his decision could be defended to Jesus Christ and behave accordingly.