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To: rolling_stone
I agree that the IRS sucks but I also agree that if we abolish all the tax shelters and deductions that unless there is a PERMANENT TAX CAP imposed that all Congress will do is raise taxes each year and then we will be left grabbing our ankles with no recourse.
21 posted on 04/13/2003 1:03:39 PM PDT by The PeteMan (Go to Hell Cronkite!)
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To: The PeteMan
There is nothing to stop Congress from raising our rates now is there? Special Interest groups get their deductions and Congress is bought and paid for with contributions by groups wanting these special deductions. Eliminating special tax interests would go a long way to cleaning up congress...IMO

Getting rid of all the hidden taxes and showing one number will help the public be aware of what government actually costs and force Congress to be more productive. We can cut our consumption to limit the taxes under NRST...

http://www.salestax.org/main.htm


It is a signal advantage of taxes on articles of consumption, that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit; which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end proposed, that is, an extension of the revenue. When applied to this object, the saying is as just as it is witty, that, "in political arithmetic, two and two do not always make four." If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them." - Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 21, December 12, 1787



http://nesara.org/faqs/nrst.htm



The percentage amount of the tax. We agree that the initial amount of any sales tax might be high, but this works to our advantage in the long run as people finally are forced to face the actual cost of government. Using visible consumption taxes that people see every day in place of hidden taxes will generate pressure on Congress to remain within constitutional limits
32 posted on 04/13/2003 1:22:31 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: The PeteMan
I don't like the IRS either - but just don't believe any politician is going to try to implement anything that will actually help the nation and the people. I always look for the money trail - what campaign debts are their looking to pay off - or is this just a big PR scam they know will go nowhere.

I didn't like this aspect of it Rebates the sales tax on all spending up to the poverty level. This makes worse the situation of hardworking taxpayers paying for others to get a free ride.

As for nothing used being taxed - just don't believe that will happen. We pay sales taxes in Texas and any other state in which I have shopped for antiques. Used merchandise is a big market - autos, antiques, houses, most anything that is not consumed is available used. What if this gives rise to a much larger used sector that is paying no taxes - I just don't believe they will let that go. It could bring down the purchases on new items and up the purchase of used items. This would not be really good for the economy.

It's a nice pipe dream and would be great as stated for people like my husband and I. We are at the stage in life, we don't get caught up in buying new gadgets and geegaws or status symbols.

I think it might work for a while and then they will do like Texas does sometimes - announce they did not have to raise taxes on us this year. But you find out many more things are subject to sales tax than last year.

37 posted on 04/13/2003 1:32:26 PM PDT by nanny
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