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To: linton59
After anti-Semitism follows Anti-Christianity.

I'm an atheist who somehow agrees with you on this score. While I don't personally believe in God, I find much to appreciate in Christianity, and its core has been an effective means for transmitting values from generation to generation in our civilization. In fact, it has often been speculated that Christianity enabled mercantilism and then capitalism.

Of course I don't believe that Jews are "chosen," but I think their values and social structures have helped them to excell as human beings.

The 9/11 experience has caused me to shift my sensibilities. I am firmly committed to separation of church and state, but the Christian right's agenda is much more comfortable to me these days.

I see Christians as my brothers and sisters in (most) values now. Extremists of any sort offend me, but Christian zealots are usually the kindest people you'd ever want to meet.

Christianity has gone through an enlightenment. Islam may never, and I'm not going to wait around for it.

And yes, anti-Semitism and anti-Christianity are two nearly identical evils, although one addresses race and the other belief. (But after 9/11, I feel all of us Americans are Jews.)

Martin Niemoeller, a Holocaust surviver put it this way:

First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist - so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat - so I did nothing.
Then they came for the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist.
And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew - so I did little.
Then when they came for me, there was no one left who could stand up for me."

19 posted on 04/13/2003 9:00:26 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
I'm an atheist who somehow agrees with you on this score. While I don't personally believe in God, I find much to appreciate in Christianity... The 9/11 experience has caused me to shift my sensibilities. I am firmly committed to separation of church and state, but the Christian right's agenda is much more comfortable to me these days. ...Extremists of any sort offend me, but Christian zealots are usually the kindest people you'd ever want to meet.

I agree 100%. I'm an atheist too, and 9/11 also made me realize something with blinding clarity: Muslims want to kill me. Christians just want me to marry the person I'm living with.

My only variance with you is in MY version of the Neimoeller saying:

First they came for the Communists, and I said nothing, because I hate those SOBs.
Then they came for the Socialists and I said nothing, cause I hate those SOBs too.
They never came for me, we're on the same side. The End. ;^)

35 posted on 04/13/2003 10:17:30 AM PDT by Anamensis (New axis of evil: Syria, Iran, Hollywood)
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