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To: cinFLA
But YOUR side seems to see it as completely evil.

No, not completely evil, just not to be trusted outside of a tightly controlled set of constitutional limits.

Can you argue the government is trustable enough to be allowed to stretch or overstep those limits? Are there any signs that individuals like Horiuchi or Braga are being brought to justice - or any other signs that overstepping bears a price? And is there any reason to think a future Clinton or Clintonesqe presidency would not abuse Patriot Act powers?

114 posted on 04/13/2003 4:19:09 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
But why do you say your list of top five enemies include:

Bush Jr.
Hutchinson
Jeb Bush
Ashcroft
115 posted on 04/13/2003 4:38:33 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: eno_
And is there any reason to think a future Clinton or Clintonesqe presidency would not abuse Patriot Act powers?

I doubt you even have any concept of the Patriot Act powers you are complaining about. Never heard any of you anti-Bush people speak specifics, only that all of us that are against drug legalization are for baby killing.

116 posted on 04/13/2003 4:42:53 PM PDT by cinFLA
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