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To: ISawIt
At the least, his testimony should be taken, and he should be released afterwards, if it is not contradictory to established facts.

I agree; the problem I have is the held incommunicado, and the length of time involved. Can anyone here consider it would be alright to get locked away for two or more weeks? Those that would say it's OK must not have much of a life, or any responsibilities.

Once arrested, you must be charged. Those charges should be public, else we are just as much a dictatorship as Iraq. War may restrict some freedoms and rights; it does not negate them nor should it allow for unlimited holding of citizens without charges or arrest.

26 posted on 04/12/2003 10:28:15 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: brityank
Are you an attorney?

Do you know what the law says in cases like this, and why?

Do you, unlike the rest of us, know what this case is even about, exactly?
27 posted on 04/12/2003 10:32:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: brityank
Amen. There is a lot of stuff that is going on under the radar around the country. This particular action smells much.

Someone else on this thread mentioned that justice would eventually be done to the man. Well, I'd have to agree that something is being done to him, but it certainly doesn't resemble any justice I've heard of.

They either need to charge him or let him go. Just because we have an (undeclared) war going on doesn't mean that fedgov can just do anything it pleases any time it pleases because it is convienient to do so.

The protections guaranteed by the constitution are not there to make fedgov's job easier. They are there to guarantee they can't just walk all over someone's God-given rights because it is expident to do so.

34 posted on 04/12/2003 10:43:46 PM PDT by zeugma (If you use microsoft products, you are feeding the beast.)
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To: brityank
Those that would say it's OK must not have much of a life, or any responsibilities.

Well, we all appreciate how important you must think you are. Imagine not being around at all.

Two weeks?

Have you ever served on Grand Jury duty?

Well, I have two kids and live paycheck to paycheck. My wife and I juggle many-a-myriad-tasks. All of which would suffer if I was sequestered.

But...

I'd do it. Of course, my opinion might be colored by the fact that my last job was 1 block south of the World Trade Center South. It's also colored by the fact that this sort of thing is part and parcel of your citizenship.

Oh, and by the way, I did not take any unemployment benefits, or aid, because I found it repugnant to do so. There are more who are deserving. I did not die. (Obviously)
40 posted on 04/12/2003 11:15:52 PM PDT by ISawIt (Is it just me?)
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To: brityank
According to the Judge he has access to both attorneys and his wife and children.

That's hardly "incommunicado."

46 posted on 04/13/2003 12:11:36 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: brityank
Despite the outraged cries of "solitary confinement," in many articles on the case, as if that's some sort of outrage, it appears that Hawash actually requested it. According to Findlaw, Hawash requested, and the court ordered that he be placed in administrative segregation and that his family be permitted to visit him. Hawash and the government agreed that he would remain in custody pending the detention hearing on April 7th - http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hawash/40703ctord.pdf

The fact that his family has visited him several times a week makes it pretty darn obvious he's not being held in secret.

57 posted on 04/13/2003 3:11:03 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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