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IRAN PROPOSED REFERENDUM TO NORMALISE TIES WITH WASHINGTON
Iran Press Service ^ | 4.12.2003 | Safa Haeri

Posted on 04/12/2003 11:57:32 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

PARIS 12 Apr. (IPS) Iranian ruling ayatollahs, seriously concerned at the perspective of being the next on the America’s list of rogue regimes to be removed from power, paved Saturday the way for normalising relations with the United States, suggesting to organise a national referendum on the subject.

The proposal was made by Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani in an interview with "Rahbord" (Strategy) periodical, saying the problem of Iran's thorny relations with both the US and Egypt could be resolved through a referendum or by referring it to the Assembly for Discerning the Interests of the State (ADIS, or Expediency Council).

As some political analysts interpreted the suggestion as a "turning point" in the 24 years-old life of the Islamic Republic or describing it "a great leap forward", other cautioned against "over simplification" and said it is a "new cup of poison" the clerical leaders are drinking in order to save the regime, referring to the dramatic decision taken by the leader of the Islamic Revolution in 1989, accepting a United Nations resolution proclaiming cease-fire in the war with Iraq.

"Now that the ruling ayatollahs have realised the danger that looms over their head, that this American Administration is serious in its menaces, they try to get out of the pit in which they had plunged themselves", commented Mr. Ahmad Ahrar, a seasoned political analyst.

"Even if they are sincere, the big question is whether Ayatollah Ali Khameneh'i, the flag bearer of the policy of no dialogue with the Great Satan has the backing of the hard liners who control the Iranian theocratic system from behind the scene or it is just a political game aimed at fooling the hawks in Washington?" he said.

But other observers noted that coming from Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani, the regime’s second most influential voice after that of the leader, the proposal must have been already decided by the Khameneh'i, Hashemi Rafsanjani and Khatami Troika.

"Unites States biggest mistake would be to shake the hands of the Islamic Republic, a regime that has no legitimacy with the Iranian people, a regime that is in a vegetal state. If the Americans fall fool of these statements and buy such lies, they would also loose the sympathy they enjoy with the Iranians", said one students leader speaking on cndition of anonymity.

"If the American want establish real democracy in the region, they must help Iranians to change their regime", he added.

"Of course the leader should approve the final decision", Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani, who chairs the Expediency Council, pointed out, adding: "When an issue turns into a problem, it is referred to the Expediency Council to make a decision on that and when we approve an issue we send it to the leader who usually accepts it", he told the weekly, as reported by the official news agency IRNA.

A consultative body to the leader of the Islamic Republic, the 32-members ADIS also arbitrates in disputes between the Majles and the conservatives-controlled Council of Guardians (CG), which must approve all laws adopted by the parliament to make sure they are in strict conformity with Islamic canons, and also vets all candidates to all elections.

"In both cases of, the proposal would be approved, as, in the one hand, members of the EC are appointed by the leader and on the other, opinion polls shows that more than 74 per cent of the nation approve normalisation of ties with Washington", one analyst told Iran Press Service.

Under the present Constitution, the supreme leader decides on the government’s major policies, both domestic and foreign.

But Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani said the issue of Iran's resumption of ties with the US and Egypt is not included among Iran's general policies. "It is clear that the problems with the US and Egypt do exist, and we have had these problems from the era of the late founder of the Islamic Revolution Imam Khomeini", he said, without explaining.

Reminding remarks by Grand Ayatollah Roohollah Khomeini placing the interests of the State above those of the faith, Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani observed that

"Therefore, whenever it comes to our interests, we can solve whatever foreign problem which is threatening us from the viewpoint of Islam".

"Our ideology is flexible. We can choose our interests on the basis of Islam. Still, to put the country in jeopardy on the ground that we are acting on an Islamic basis is not at all Islamic", he said, noting that Iran's stance of distancing itself from the US is "political rather than religious".

Elsewhere in the interview, Mr. Hashemi Rafsanjani criticised the Foreign Affairs Ministry for its "weaknesses" and accepted that the problem come from a lack of experienced staff.

"It is true that in the early years after Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution, the experienced experts of the Ministry fled the country or were dismissed, replaced by a group of youth who took over the affairs of a Ministry which like the Foreign Affairs requires knowledge, expertise and prudence", he said.

"We should not be biased. We have lost many opportunities in the past, we have made inappropriate measures or never made any measure, and we have also delayed in making decisions", he acknowledged.

Washington cut all relations with the newly established Islamic Republic of Iran after revolutionary students – now most of them turned reformists and defending dialogue with the United States -- stormed the American embassy in Tehran and held 55 diplomats and staff as hostage for 444 days.

Tehran cut ties with Egypt after former Egyptian president Anwar Sadat signed the Camp David peace treaty with Israel and sheltered the deposed Shah of Iran. ENDS IRAN US RELATIONS 12403


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To: DoctorZIn
"Our ideology is flexible. We can choose our interests on the basis of Islam. Still, to put the country in jeopardy on the ground that we are acting on an Islamic basis is not at all Islamic", he said, noting that Iran's stance of distancing itself from the US is "political rather than religious".

khomeini: Time's man of the year Imagine a future after an Islamic enlightenment. I hope it can happen, and I want to encourage it whenever we can. We should support the olive branch when it comes to us from these brave intellectuals.

I would quickly open diplomatic relations with Iran if they ask us. But I will never forget the 444 days.

41 posted on 04/12/2003 1:44:19 PM PDT by risk (I thought using the Ayatollah's money to support the Nicaraguan resistance was a neat idea. --Ollie)
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To: savedbygrace
North Korea and Iran wanting to talk right now must just be a coincidence.

Nope. Its because they're afraid of the Clinton military being unleashed on them.

42 posted on 04/12/2003 1:53:16 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: savedbygrace
Imagine all this happening now, what with us having such a stupid person for president and all. /sarcasm

Oh, I'm sure it's bill clinton and jimmy carter working behind the scenes.<//doublesarcasm

43 posted on 04/12/2003 2:37:25 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: DoctorZIn
"If the American want establish real democracy in the region, they must help Iranians to change their regime", he added.

Bump for Truth.

44 posted on 04/12/2003 2:37:37 PM PDT by thatdewd (Billboards for the rich, spraycans for the poor, and taglines for the rest...)
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To: dixiechick2000
"Now that the ruling ayatollahs have realised the danger that looms over their head, that this American Administration is serious in its menaces, they try to get out of the pit in which they had plunged themselves", commented Mr. Ahmad Ahrar, a seasoned political analyst.

"Unites States biggest mistake would be to shake the hands of the Islamic Republic, a regime that has no legitimacy with the Iranian people, a regime that is in a vegetal state. If the Americans fall fool of these statements and buy such lies, they would also loose the sympathy they enjoy with the Iranians", said one students leader speaking on cndition of anonymity.

My take EXACTLY.
45 posted on 04/12/2003 3:15:13 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: risk
Bump to that. (great quote, btw)
46 posted on 04/12/2003 3:15:40 PM PDT by WarSlut
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To: DoctorZIn
Peace through superior firepower.

Knock off the biggest bully of the block and the the others will fall all over themselves to kiss your feet.
47 posted on 04/12/2003 3:17:47 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: DoctorZIn
The President:

Islam is a religion of peace -- Taliban-SMASH-WACK!
Islam is a religion of peace -- al Qaeda-SMASH-WACK!
Islam is a religion of peace -- Iraq-SMASH-WACK!

Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani:

"Our ideology is flexible. We can choose our interests on the basis of Islam. Still, to put the country in jeopardy on the ground that we are acting on an Islamic basis is not at all Islamic", he said, noting that Iran's stance of distancing itself from the US is "political rather than religious".

Humana-humana-humana....

It sounds like the Ayatollah is beginning to understand the message -- at least outwardly.

BTW, did anybody notice in this article that the writer initially addresses Rafsanjani as Ayatollah Rafsanjani but then later in the article he address Rafsanjani as Mr. Rafsanjani.

48 posted on 04/12/2003 3:26:23 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: DoctorZIn
Still, to put the country in jeopardy on the ground that we are acting on an Islamic basis is not at all Islamic", he said

That's the most sensible thing I recall hearing from these wackos in a very long time.

-ccm

49 posted on 04/12/2003 3:30:23 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: DoctorZIn
Well Golly and Shazaam! First North Korea wants to make nicey, nice with us all of a sudden and now the Iranians. The liberals/demonrats/socialists were right... the whole region is getting "destabilized" LOL!
50 posted on 04/12/2003 3:33:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: WarSlut
(great quote, btw)

I have strongly mixed feelings. But I'm looking forward to the day when patriots in the executive branch aren't exasperated by the legislative branch's complacency and lack of vision.

51 posted on 04/12/2003 3:41:54 PM PDT by risk
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To: DoctorZIn
Our president has said repeatedly that he stands with the people of Iran. It would seem that no one has figured out yet that he means what he says.
52 posted on 04/12/2003 3:55:56 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: AmericaUnited
Well Golly and Shazaam! First North Korea wants to make nicey, nice with us all of a sudden and now the Iranians. The liberals/demonrats/socialists were right... the whole region is getting "destabilized" LOL!

ROFL! Yup, they're lining up to be our bestest ever pals. I hope they save a place for Syria.

53 posted on 04/12/2003 4:24:51 PM PDT by Frunabulax ("If the truth will kill them, let them die.")
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To: DoctorZIn
IRAN PROPOSED REFERENDUM...

Well well, look who's come crawling back. Still think international terrorism is a good idea?

It's not enough to go after terrorists and their group leaders, we need to take down the GOVERNMENTS that are sponsoring it, and we are. Their tack is a whole lot different when they see that we're serious.

54 posted on 04/12/2003 4:38:11 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: DoctorZIn
Many here have been saying "we need to immediately invade Syria and Iran and North Korea and take care of them." I have responded that I don't think this is going to be necessary.

I predict that the next twelve months or so is going to see some interesting shifts in policy by some of these belligerent states. They have seen the giant awaken from its slumber. They have seen what this President is willing to do despite the entire world being against us, when U.S. security is at stake.

I predict they are going to be much more willing to listen to reason, and much less willing to engage in intrigues against us.

I predict that there may even be some "Gifts" arriving at our door from some of these regimes, such as information as to where to find terrorist camps and terrorist leaders. And a willingness to look the other way as our SpecOps people descend on these camps and utterly destroy them.

The days of al-Qa'ida, Hezbollah and others, who have killed our people in the last quarter century, are doubtless numbered.

And once again, the entire world will benefit because this great nation is willing to do what it takes.

Not that any of them will ever thank us. Perish the thought.
55 posted on 04/12/2003 4:44:44 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: antaresequity
Syria is NOTHING. They are a pipsqueak nation with no resources, no real military, and no prospects for the future if they are pressed by us with sanctions, etc.

Syria is small potatoes.
56 posted on 04/12/2003 4:46:07 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: witnesstothefall
You are wrong. There are many, many in Iran that are fed up with the Islamic government.

And there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of Iranians in the U.S. who would willingly go back to Iran in a HEARTBEAT if called upon, to lead a revolution against the Mullahs.

People really do misunderstand what is really going on in that part of the world.
57 posted on 04/12/2003 4:47:52 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
You are wrong. There are many, many in Iran that are fed up with the Islamic government.

70% of Iran is under the age of 30, and a very large percentage of that 70% hold pro-western secular views of government and want reform...

58 posted on 04/12/2003 4:51:39 PM PDT by antaresequity (...)
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To: DoctorZIn

59 posted on 04/12/2003 4:55:25 PM PDT by handk
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To: antaresequity
One of my good friends is a woman engineer who used to report to me. She and her husband came here as teens in 1979 with their families, running from Khomaeini. Her father was a Major General in the Iranian Air Force and had a death sentence on his head.

A few years ago, when the first rumblings of discontent began to be heard, I found her in her office listening to the local Farsi language radio station here in Houston. It was a talk show originating from Los Angeles, and people were calling in to say "I'm ready to go back! Let's buy the rifles, let's buy the hand grenades, let's buy helicopters, etc.! Let's go take back our country."

I said to her, "do they really think they could do that?" I thought it was a joke. She looked at me, indignant, and said firmly "I would go back in a moment, with an AK-47 and hand grenades, and kill those people if I thought we could free our country!"

She was in tears.

The thing is, this woman and her husband have children, probably earn in excess of $200K per year, have a palatial home here in Houston, and a son who is just about to go to medical school.

It's not as if they have been poor refugees with nowhere to go but up.

Don't underestimate the fire in the belly of the true patriot.
60 posted on 04/12/2003 4:59:03 PM PDT by Illbay
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