[FITZ]

Maybe "chosen" doesn't mean automatically saved. I'm no Bible expert but I don't think Jesus came to undo the Old Testament, he came to fulfill it ----but he didn't unchoose the chosen people. Jesus chose some apostles too ---but they wouldn't necessarily be saved ---like Judas. Even the New Testament talks about rebuilding Jerusalem.

[Restorer]

Please see post 92. A lot of people seem to disagree with it, but nobody has attempted to disprove it.

[Restorer]

Jesus chose some apostles too

And then unchose the only one that rejected him. Judas was specifically replaced, unlike any of the other apostles.

If any of the other apostles were ever replaced, even when they died, the Bible doesn't mention it.

[Illbay]

The basic meaning of "chosen" is that they are the means by which the Lord has "chosen" to save all mankind.

See Isaiah 52:15. The Lord has "sprinkled the nations" with the blood of Israel. The blessings of Abraham are available to all who come unto Christ and are saved.

We owe a huge debt of gratitude to Israel for this gift, but in the end, it is up to the individual to accept it.

This goes for individual Jews as well.