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To: Geist Krieger
"Bush needs to take a lesson from England and Australia where crime is up"

The second amendment is NOT about crime prevention!

It is about preventing, deterring, and fighting government tyranny. Bush is perfectly following the tyrant line on this one.
67 posted on 04/12/2003 8:24:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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To: Beelzebubba
Sic semper tyrannis! Bush is not a tyrant, but one could easily follow him in the not-too distant future if we allow the Constitution to be whittled away into meaningless shavings.
197 posted on 04/12/2003 10:08:46 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Beelzebubba
"The second amendment is NOT about crime prevention!

It is about preventing, deterring, and fighting government tyranny. Bush is perfectly following the tyrant line on this one."

I have to disagree somewhat. The way I see it, the second amendment is the one that clearly codifies the idea that citizens of the United States are legally defined as free men, who are allowed to own weapons, and to use those weapons to protect their lives, their loved ones and their property.

One of the biggest lessons I have learned from history is that there have been two kinds of citizens in all countries in all of history. Those two kinds are "free men" and "slaves" or "subjects". The biggest difference between free men and slaves is that free men are allowed to own and use weapons in their own defense, while slaves are not allowed to own weapons, and are not allowed to strike out at anyone, even in self defense.

IMHO gun laws are slave laws. They are not designed for our safety, they are designed to demonstrate that we are no longer free men, but subjects of the nanny state. I support politicians who oppose gun laws, and I oppose politicians who support gun laws.

Even the Democrats figured out that more gun laws was a losing issue for them. If they hadn't been so pegged as being the "gun grabbing party" they would own the White House right now. Do the Republicans want to go down that same path?

198 posted on 04/12/2003 10:10:26 AM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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