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Now, I'm as pro-Second Amendment as anybody. But, this is truly amazing if you think about it. It appears that, if there'd been enough "litmus test" voters in our ranks, and the left had convinced enough of us during the 2000 campaign that Bush would consider supporting the extension, we could be coping with President Gore today.

Incredible.

41 posted on 04/12/2003 8:10:28 AM PDT by newgeezer (Admit it; Amendment XIX is very much to blame.)
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To: newgeezer
No; I'm not an idiot. And I gave the guy a chance. We gave the the executive branch and the party both houses, didn't we?

Frankly, if having Republican president = gun bans, who cares who's in the White House. That's the whole point.
58 posted on 04/12/2003 8:19:15 AM PDT by lainie
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we could be coping with President Gore today.

That excuse has been exhausted. At this point, we can compare the progress we made under Clinton with just a GOP House to the progress (or lack there-of) with Bush, a GOP House, and a GOP Senate. Since the race domestically is too close to call (and that's being generous), this threat no longer scares me. When a die-hard Leftist is in office, the fence-sitters wake up enough to prevent the worst of the worst. When the GOP is in office, they go back to sleep, and we get huge budget increases, important legislative initiatives defeated, and half of the GOP celebrating it.

Bring on Edwards or Kerry. We'll eat him alive even if he is disgracing the White House.

59 posted on 04/12/2003 8:20:51 AM PDT by Teacher317
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It appears that, if there'd been enough "litmus test" voters in our ranks, and the left had convinced enough of us during the 2000 campaign that Bush would consider supporting the extension, we could be coping with President Gore today. Incredible.

It is incredible that we have such a hard time getting a president that respects the constitution. We are always running in fear of the ass who will step on our rights the most.

60 posted on 04/12/2003 8:21:21 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: newgeezer
"I'm as pro-Second Amendment as anybody. But, this is truly amazing if you think about it. It appears that, if there'd been enough "litmus test" voters in our ranks, and the left had convinced enough of us during the 2000 campaign that Bush would consider supporting the extension, we could be coping with President Gore today."

Probably true--and BUSH needs to remember that. It is us "litmus test" gun owners that provided his margin of victory against Gore. Hell, even Clinton acknowledges it.

127 posted on 04/12/2003 8:59:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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My main concern with the "assault weapon" ban is that the definition of "assault weapon" is very flexible and very much open to interpretation. Thus, Bush may be in support of restricting one type of firearm but ends up banning countless others that by any objective reasoning could not be even remotely construed as an "assault weapon." He should come out publicly and say he will support a ban on automatic fire weapons (which have been illegal since the 1930s), since by original definition only firearms that were capable of firing in automatic mode were defined as assault weapons. He will likely lose my vote if he does not make that clear. I would not vote for the Dem, but I have in the past lodged my "protest" votes by pulling the lever for libertarians and constitutionalists, if they are on the ballot, or writing in a candidate (I always vote).
193 posted on 04/12/2003 10:00:56 AM PDT by ought-six
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