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Ten Worst Tax Laws
Human Events ^ | Week of April 14, 2003 | 14 distinguished judges

Posted on 04/11/2003 11:58:10 AM PDT by Remedy

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To: Henchman
Tariffs and duties applied to commerce is all that is needed to fund the government. We have soveriegn state governments that need the funding. If our legislatures came home to a real job like they are supposed to and quit trying to make Government a permanent job, we wouldn't have this issue. Our founding Fathers didn't forsee this government to be full time, that's why they met once a year for a short "duration", then went home to family and jobs.
What's the difference between Wages and income? Income is the profits made from commerce...Taxable. Wages are what you earn from your company that pays you from income....non-taxable. The distinction is made in the Title code 26.
21 posted on 04/11/2003 1:01:51 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I could get a degree in trivia, I would have my Doctorate!)
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To: Zavien Doombringer; Henchman
We The People Foundation & We The People Congress

Operation Stop Withholding Underway: No Objections by IRS or DOJ

Operation Stop Withholding, which got underway last month in Nashua, New Hampshire and Irvine, California, is now in full swing.

The We The People Congress has scheduled dozens of workshops around the country to instruct officials of private companies, workers and independent contractors on how to legally stop withholding, filing and paying the individual income tax

DOJ: "We’ll Answer Their Questions . . . By Prosecuting"

Tax Jihad Continues: Ban Free Speech

Shortly before 5 PM on the 30th day of her hunger strike (April 2nd) the front desk at Rose Lear’s DC hotel called her room and informed her she had just received a several page fax. It was from Michigan Congressman Peter Hoekstra. It was the reply Lear had risked her life for.

It was supposed to contain specific answers to each of the 537 "true or false" type questions about US income tax law that Lear formally served on her Congressman as a Petition for Redress of Grievances.

Although Hoekstra, according to Lear, had specifically directed his staff to answer the questions, the final, official Congressional response to Rose Lear was simply more avoidance and tired legal drivel apparently penned by a Hoekstra congressional aide assisted by a government attorney.

22 posted on 04/11/2003 1:31:30 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
I agree with the number one ranking for the estate and gift tax. Its a really stupid tax. Its causes economic upheaval, actually reduces the level of economic activity and thus revenues to the govt and makes lawyers and tax accountants rich.
23 posted on 04/11/2003 1:32:37 PM PDT by Timocrat
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To: Remedy
What about the earned income tax credit law signed by I believe Nixon which gives back money (not theirs but everyone else's ) to low income filers? Talk about a program that discourages people to work harder or get training and make more money. Why do that when they can make less and get big fat checks at the end of the year. Let's not forget that lots of these folks work on the side too - all untaxable income.

I guess what is most repulsive about these tax laws and the proliferation of code is that many many people become in effect lawbreakers in order to hide some of their income.

24 posted on 04/11/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: BruceS
Woman who hasn't eaten in 3 weeks recontacts elected officialsTwo years ago, at the request of We the People, IRS and Justice Department officials agreed to meet with WTP leader Bob Schulz to answer his questions after he went on a 20-day hunger strike. Government officials later reneged, and We the People held its own congressional-hearing style forum in Washington, D.C. At the event, several expert tax attorneys and former IRS officials testified that the income tax system is fraudulent and that most Americans are not legally required to pay. It was the record of that forum that accompanied the petition delivered to Congress
25 posted on 04/11/2003 1:54:28 PM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy; *Taxreform
These about covers the IRC, doesn't it?

Too bad they didn't go all the way and suggest that the income tax be replaced by the National Retail Sales Tax and that the IRS be abolished!

See http://www.salestax.org for more info.
26 posted on 04/11/2003 5:14:22 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Also, please state for the record the Statute that says you have to pay taxes?

Probably a waste of my time, because you have already decided you are smarter than everyone else, but try Title 26, Section 1:

(a) Married individuals filing joint returns and surviving spouses

There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of -

(1) every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who makes a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, and

(2) every surviving spouse (as defined in section 2(a)), a tax determined in accordance with the following table:

Please note that I left out the tables in the interest of brevity

(b) Heads of households

There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of every head of a household (as defined in section 2(b)) a tax determined in accordance with the following table:

(c) Unmarried individuals (other than surviving spouses and heads of households)

There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of every individual (other than a surviving spouse as defined in section 2(a) or the head of a household as defined in section 2(b)) who is not a married individual (as defined in section 7703) a tax determined in accordance with the following table:

(d) Married individuals filing separate returns

There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of every married individual (as defined in section 7703) who does not make a single return jointly with his spouse under section 6013, a tax determined in accordance with the following table:

(e) Estates and trusts

There is hereby imposed on the taxable income of -

(1)every estate, and

(2)every trust, taxable under this subsection a tax determined in accordance with the following table:

Now, I may be mistaken, but the above says that a tax is imposed on taxable income of individuals and trusts. Subchapter B defines what is taxable income, etc. Further, Section 6102 says that you have to file a return.

Please read the law, not the web site that excerpts portions of the law, out of order. I could probably take excerpts from their materials and, by cutting and pasting as they have done, prove that the tax laws are sound, legal and reasonable.

Then if you truely have, then you know that the law was declared ratified with out the appropriate number of states.

Let me guess - you've never actually take a legal course, have you? If you had, you would have known that if a contract has errors in it, but all parties to the contract adhere to the contract, it is considered a valid, binding legal document. Aha! you say, but We the People never agreed to the 16th Amendment - there were misspellings in some of the text voted on, there was doubt about one or more states legally ratifying it, etc. But what you are ignoring is that the Constitution is not a contract between the people and the government. It is a contract between the States and the Federal Government (think about it - who ratified the Constitution? are people required to vote on amendments? No in both cases - the states are required to do that). And the States and the Federal Government are acting as if the contract amendment is valid, therefore it is.

I've already wasted too much of my time - you will only cite something out of the literature they sent to you (I hope you didn't pay too much). Go read the code. I don't like the income tax, but after much study, I am convinced that it is legal (although the IRS steps out of their legal role sometimes). (/time wasting)

27 posted on 04/11/2003 5:18:59 PM PDT by BruceS
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To: HighWheeler; *Taxreform
Thanks for the ping.

My advice to those who challenge the legitimacy of the federal income tax system, FWIIW, is that you should pay your taxes and work with us to change the law.

I happen to believe that Bill Benson is right, but it is immaterial whether the 16th was properly ratified -- the courts say it was, and that is all that matters.

Joining the Tax Protest movement is a good way to waste a lot of time and money and ultimately, spend a lot of time at a Club Fed.

See http://www.salestax.org for an alternative.
28 posted on 04/11/2003 5:21:11 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Zavien Doombringer
No objection to the intent of the founding fathers. I do not pay state income tax and do not want to - so I disagree on the need of states to have an income tax, and they were sovereign until 1865. With respect to your interpretation of the tax code - I believe it is section 61 - anything that is not exempted by the code is income. Yopu had better re-read before DOJ finishes with you. even if you collect funds, like most of these crazies organizations, and report it - they may charge you with conspiracy Title 18 (I could look it up, but you should find it around sec 278), causing a false return to be filed, aiding and abetting (check around the 7200 sections of Title 26, eg title 26, Sec 7206) etc. What type of cake do you like?
29 posted on 04/11/2003 6:29:37 PM PDT by Henchman
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To: Remedy
Thanks for posting.
30 posted on 04/16/2003 2:04:09 PM PDT by Marianne
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