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Protesters Call High School Exit Exam 'Racist' (Critics Say Tests Are Biased Toward Whites, Asians)
NBC - 4 ^ | February 26, 2003

Posted on 04/11/2003 11:04:18 AM PDT by Michael2001

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To: bdeaner
Uhhhh, didja know, they now grade the SAT on a curve? 2 wrong is now perfect. Figure that one out.
141 posted on 04/12/2003 7:43:35 PM PDT by POGIFFMOO (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: ladylib
Go to any library in Los Angeles.Outside you see hispanic kids skateboarding and rollerblading.Inside you see asian kid and their parents reading and studying.
142 posted on 04/12/2003 8:01:01 PM PDT by dancusa
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To: kstewskis
This is all nonsense.

We give standardized tests to see what the children have learned.

To imply that racism is involved is amazingly stupid. If your child doesn't do well, your child hasn't learned the objectives... pure and simple.

These people who are screaming racism are simply idiots of their own choosing.

I sincerely doubt they would do well on these tests.

143 posted on 04/13/2003 5:33:00 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: reg45
Thanks for your correction. But I think you got the point even with the error.
144 posted on 04/13/2003 6:48:02 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (The Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps team putting warheads on their foreheads! OOH-RAH)
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To: zuggerlee
zuggerlee: What the article did not point out is that on average white students from blue collar families outperform black and hispanic children of college educated white collar parents.



george wythe: Source?? Link??



zuggerlee: Read "Losing the Race" by McWhorter.

The Shaker Heights Ohio data show that parents education and income levels correlate much less for blacks than for whites.




What about hispanics?

What about a link?

146 posted on 04/13/2003 10:05:13 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: classmuse500
The following dribble is from: http://www.fairtest.org/arn/High_Stakes_and_Retention_are_Class_Boased_and_Racist.html

COALITION FOR EDUCATIONAL JUSTICE
(CEJ)

This year, LA Unified School District will hold students back a grade (retention) in the 2nd and 8th grades if they don't pass certain "standards." By 2001 and 2002, LAUSD will hold students back in all grades based substantially on the Stanford 9 standardized test and others (given in English). Why should we oppose this?

High-Stakes Testing and Retention are Class-Biased and Racist

1. Low-income students, who have fewer resources at their schools, aren't given an equal chance on these tests. Retention policies tied to test results, therefore, are class- and racially-discriminatory because poverty mostly affects immigrants and communities of color. For example, LA County schools are hyper-segregated and schools in communities of color are 12 times more likely to lack basic materials than schools in white communities. These schools are 6 times as likely to have less experienced teachers.

2. When given only in English, tests measure national origin more than mastery of school material. When tests are language-biased, otherwise competent students are punished for not speaking English fluently.

3. The tests are culturally-biased as mostly middle-income, white test-makers produce tests that measure the knowledge and experiences valued by middle-income whites. They ignore the knowledge and experiences valued by other cultures.

4. Schools in low-income communities of color in particular, where test pressure is highest, focus on destructive "Back to Basics" lessons and testing drills. They also "track" students. "Back to Basics" does not have high learning standards. Wealthy schools more often do rigorous, project-based learning.

5. Low-income students are retained twice as often as high-income children. Students of color are retained in large numbers. Retention contributes to the high dropout rate among African-Americans and Latinos, as compared to whites. The gap between white students and students of color is widened, not narrowed.

High-Stakes Testing and Retention Hurt Learning, Students, and Teachers

1. Standardized tests do not measure creativity, problem-solving abilities, ethical thinking, and many other things central to learning. They mostly measure what is crammed into students' short-term memories.

2. Positive jumps in test scores are often due to narrow test coaching rather than real learning.

3. Most students like school less when their classes and time are focused on standardized tests.

4. Retention contributes to academic failure rather than to success in school. A single grade retention increases the chances that a student will drop out by 50%. A second retention increases the risk by 90%.

5. Retention blames poor performance on children, not on the school district. Rather than transform schools, retention policies make students repeat an experience that failed them before.

6. Testing hype puts negative pressure on teachers and stifles their creativity.

7. Ongoing tutoring without retention should be greatly expanded for students with academic needs. The focus on retention ensures that only narrow, pressure-filled tutoring programs will exist.

 

TESTING AND RETENTION PUNISH MOSTLY LOW-INCOME STUDENTS OF COLOR FOR THE FAILURES OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS. GET INVOLVED IN CEJ.

Contact Alex Caputo-Pearl    caputoprl@aol.com

147 posted on 04/13/2003 10:14:32 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: San Jacinto
But very little books are so hard to read. They do save a lot of trees though.
148 posted on 04/13/2003 10:21:07 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( The roots of sweet liberty are best fertilized by the stinking rotting corpse of tyranny.)
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To: Koblenz
"...grammar is grammar, etc), it's hard for the test to be racist."

I think the classic example given is "match the phrase: cup and ______" where the correct answer is "cup and saucer." It is claimed that poor kids don't use saucers with their cups at home since they only have large coffee cups. The poor kids would be more likely to select the incorrect answer "cup and table" since they associated seeing a coffee cup sitting on the breakfast table more than they associated a demitasse or dainty tea cup with a saucer since those are relativly unknown to them.

The argument is that since black kids are more likely to be poor than white ones, the grammar question above can be considered racist.

149 posted on 04/13/2003 10:29:52 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bdeaner
Corporal punishment or not, the criminal subculture that is embedded in many kids today, in movies, music and television. "gangsta rap" or "death metal" is NOT today's equivalent of Elvis or the Rolling Stones. Of course, I do not support censorship but I also don't have enough faith in today's parents' ability to influence their children. I invite anyone to come to New York City and ride any subway line around 3pm on a weekday, when schools let out and your experience will prove my case.

As long as there continue to be single parent, or dual worker parent families, I can't see this generation having the same values as someone raised 50 years ago.

We're barely able to contain the defects from the previous generations in the 2 million plus convicts we have in our prisons.

Whenever some liberal in the NYU area argues for "No More Prisons", I inform any skeptic that New York City Rifle/Shotgun Permit Applications can be picked up at 120-25 Queens Blvd.

If the unemployable degenerates that the Leftist public school system created can't function in civilized society then its either more welfare, the draft, ethnic warfare or Spencerian Darwinism. Corporal punishment will be the least of our problems.
150 posted on 04/13/2003 3:31:09 PM PDT by newyorkronin
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To: maxwell
The liberals can whine about Western, male-dominated ideology all they want when their policiies collapses this country and they starve in the inner cities because economic and military power shift back towards agriculture and the heavily armed feudal militias who sweep the towns and roads clear of marauders, squatters and lawyers in return for food and conscripts.

WHOOPS! Did I just give away the vast right wing conspiracy?
151 posted on 04/13/2003 3:45:56 PM PDT by newyorkronin
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To: savedbygrace
You GOTTA be a public school teacher!
152 posted on 04/13/2003 7:28:46 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: iconoclast
Now I am cut to the quick. I said that stuff was dribble and I meant it in the very worst way.

Homeschool rules!

153 posted on 04/13/2003 7:40:10 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: TheBigB
My answer is 15 (6 per hour then another 3 per 1/2 hour)...

Racist my back 6!
154 posted on 04/14/2003 9:02:47 AM PDT by Ebony-Patriot (Freedom isn't Free.......)
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To: zuggerlee
Good find.

Thanks for posting the link to this article.

156 posted on 04/19/2003 11:55:11 AM PDT by george wythe
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