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To: Just mythoughts
Who did you get to do your research? Who is in charge of deciding who is scholarly and not? Based upon what?

There is something known as consensus, and it's determined by a number of factors, among them peer review and established reputations. While there is certainly an element of subjectivity at work, when you have a theory that doesn't have a lot of support, you must either conclude that the theory doesn't pass mucter, or that everyone else is wrong. While the latter is sometimes true, it isn't true very often.

First off I responded to the article "Genetic evidence links Jews ancient tribe", dumped at the end was a tiny little tid bit about the "ten tribes".

Right, that would be this post...


To: Asher

The Ten Tribes, (House of Israel) were taken by the Assrian King, North over the Caucasus Mountains, later into Europe.

That is where the word Caucasian came from.

The House of Judah (two tribes) went into captivity to Babylon.

The two Houses have not been rejoined.

There is no proof or basis to claim that the Kurdish Jews are the Ten Tribes.


6 posted on 04/11/2003 5:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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At which point, you were asked for linguistic or genetic evidence. You respond misunderstandings about how genetics works. Like...

Now, without the body of Jacob/Israel there is no proof that can be legally claimed by "ANYBODY", I don't care what they call themselves today, to say that they are from the tribes of Jacob/Israel.

This is all untrue.You don't need the body of Jacob to establish genetic relationships, just as you don't need DNA from your parents to establish a genetic relationship between you and your parents. Your premise is false, and is of no use in supporting your subsequent conclusions.

I was asked to give some sources. Now obviously, being unaware of the "agenda", by many here stupid me listed some books that described what others have written.

Obviously, you did not read what I said before the list and after the list that if the books went against what is WRITTEN, the Word is correct.

Why do the sources you list show up on so many anti-Semitic websites?
Where did you get that list?
Have you read the titles you listed?
Why did you list Bullinger, who doesn't show up on the hate sites and says not one word about the Lost Tribes of European Caucasians?

Again it is Written those "Ten Tribes" were sent into captivity by the Assrian King, they would be scattered to the four corners, would be a great nation, and yet they would not know who they are. Now you figure that out.

Are we to understand that anyone not realizing they are descended from the Ten Tribes, actually is? If not, then there is no point to this comment. If so, then everyone on Earth except the Jews is descended from the Lost Tribes.

Many use the Bible itself to make their own way, do you discredit it and its scholars, who educated them.

One at a time. You've been promoting a theory for the fate of the Ten Lost Tribes that is unsupported by the Bible. Your subsequent sources are either not pertinent (like Bullinger) at best, or questionable screeds of dubious scholarship from a handful of people of rather uncertain credibility.

While you may not have been aware of this before you posted on this thread, that is now no longer true. One of the risks, and benefits, of an internet forum like Free Republic is that we have the opportunity to test our arguments and learn their weaknesses.

I engaged you in this conversation because I'd seen others take your position in the past, and was curious to see if you were going to cite the same uncompelling sources. You did.

Now, you either need to change your position or find new sources to support it.




244 posted on 04/13/2003 4:24:52 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
"Consensus, peer review, established reputations".

Wow, I sure missed that direction in the Word. Rather the Word says exactly the opposite.

The majority has never been correct and they sure are not today.

Based upon your criteria, then few of what was Written would be acceptable to you and your agenda.

You have spent so much time attempting to disprove, discredit, change the subject, rather than proving anything about where those "ten tribes" went.

Vanities of vanities, you have gained nothing, given nothing. Boy you sure do have consensus on that.

But of course as it is Written those "ten tribes" would not know who they are.



254 posted on 04/13/2003 6:11:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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