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To: Henk
You obviously don't get it do you? I guess it might help if you had a little brain matter between your ears but let me try and explain this one to you. Let's say for instance even one of these stories were told. CNN and all other news organizations would of been kicked out immediately never to return. The result.. all of this would go undocumented. Now i'm sure there are plenty of news organizations that will be able to place facts so that any living members of the regime responsible for these crimes will be put to justice. That's just one part. How about the Iraqi's working for them as he mentioned? Is it better to document these stories or to have your whole baghdad staff killed? What would be better for your concience?

Try acting your age if you can.
1,119 posted on 04/11/2003 2:44:25 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
I'll guess you have some type of political conflict with this person or some such issue . How in the hell you cannot see what the problem is with the actions of CNN is stunning .
1,184 posted on 04/11/2003 3:46:35 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Almondjoy
All this would NOT go undocumented......those who were kicked out would be screaming it out at the top of their lungs if they had any morals. That IS the problem! AND, they would have figured out ways to get their local people out with them...
1,188 posted on 04/11/2003 3:49:44 PM PDT by goodnesswins (CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News......by CRIMINALS!)
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To: Almondjoy
Is it better to document these stories or to have your whole baghdad staff killed? What would be better for your concience?

This is simple.

CNN should have pulled out of Iraq and told the world what it knew. By all means, make every effort to pull families out, etc. to get as many innocent as you can.

Brit Hume just reminded us of the fairly recent "election" of Saddam Hussein which was such a sham. However, the reporter informed the CNN viewers of the "reverence" Iraqis supposedly had for their leader.

And clearly CNN was portraying GWB as the madman for wanting to go to war. They wanted "containment", they still are mis-representing facts, and they still retain the abominable Christiane Amanpour, who probably knows ever MORE horror stories, and still she clearly views the U.S. as the bad guy.

1,213 posted on 04/11/2003 3:57:41 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")
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To: Almondjoy
Your premise appears to be that the documentation of torture is more important than complicity in torture.

Please go away though, your tone of argument is not anything I wish to engage with.

1,223 posted on 04/11/2003 3:59:52 PM PDT by Henk
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To: Almondjoy; ShotgunWillie
> Let's say for instance even one of these stories were told. CNN and all other news organizations would of been kicked out immediately never to return.

They shouldn't have waited to get kicked out. Once they saw that Saddam's animals were going to make being a propaganda organ for the regime the price of keeping their Baghdad bureau open, they should have said "Thanks, but no thanks", and then bugged out.

The result.. all of this would go undocumented. Now i'm sure there are plenty of news organizations that will be able to place facts so that any living members of the regime responsible for these crimes will be put to justice.

Bulls**t. What do you suppose is happening now that the regime has crumbled away? The truth is coming out. And it's coming out in spite of the left wing media organs such as the New York Times, LA Times, Newsweek and CNN. And what use is ANYTHING that CNN's Baghdad staff might "document" when the bureau has surrendered any pretext of credibility it may have had by prostituting itself to Saddam Hussein?

How about the Iraqi's working for them as he mentioned?

This is the most compelling reason there is for CNN to have packed up shop in Baghdad once it became clear what the terms were going to be to stay! It would be very hard for the regime to kill them if CNN were no longer there and they weren't working (or at least it would be hard for the regime to kill them under this particular pretext - Saddam's monsters didn't seem to even need a reason to kill).

So instead, CNN prostrated themselves before Saddam and cheerfully pushed his propaganda on the rest of the world just so they could keep their "presence." Seems to me that CNN's Iraqi staffers were tortured and murdered pushing Saddam's propaganda. That has to be one of the vilest forms of irony I can imagine. AND CNN LET THIS HAPPEN FOR TWELVE YEARS!!!

And then on top of all that, knowing all of this, CNN has the unmitigated gall to send us all kinds of warm and fuzzy stories about Saddam's birthday celebration, about how Saddam got almost 100 percent of the "vote" in the last "election" and how this is proof that the Iraqis adored him.

Every time 50 smelly unwashed hippie maggots turned out to shit in the streets, throw trash at cops and wave their stupid "No blood for oil" signs, CNN breathlessly reported that tens of thousands of "mainstream Americans" were peacefully protesting this "illegal", "immoral" war (and CNN made no bones about their total agreement with the protestors on the war issue). CNN even went out of their way to clean up the coverage, showing only sweet grandmotherly types and cute little kids waving "No War" signs! And why not - they were giving us a whitewashed view of the goings-on in Baghdad from their precious bureau there, so why not spread some more lies?

Every time that POS perfumed prince Wesley Clark opened his piehole to deliver his latest steaming load with a grunt and a splash, CNN was right there, gleefully urging him on and repeating the Left's mantra-de-jour that the idiot selected President had led us into another Vietnam quagmire, that our soldiers were starving in the desert, that Rumsfeld was a blithering fool endangering our soldier's lives by trying to win the war on the cheap, and that Iraqi civilians were dropping like flies.

Get the point yet?

1,328 posted on 04/11/2003 5:07:37 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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