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'Mother of all Bombs' prepared for Tikrit
The U.K. Times ^ | April 11, 2003 | From David Charter in Qatar and Michael Evans, Defence Editor

Posted on 04/10/2003 3:50:17 PM PDT by loudmouths

THE ground battle for the last stronghold of Saddam Hussein’s regime could start as early as Monday.

The first elements of the US 4th Infantry Division, including 44 of the latest Abrams M1A2 tanks and 18 Paladin howitzers, will shortly be in attack position outside Tikrit, 112 miles north of Baghdad.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thid; iraqifreedom; moab; tikrit; viceisclosing
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To: Amerigomag
"...We will not let you use civilins [sic] to protect yourselves from the consequences of your actions.

Uh, so we drop a couple over residential neigborhoods?

Easy there, buddy! ;^)

21 posted on 04/10/2003 4:17:29 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: runningbear
They will use it in the desert, over a battle field full of enemy airheads.

I hope they take the time out to demonstrate one at a safe distance so that the enemy will have to walk that long distance with their hands up and a pant's load full of their sh*t!

Why not give them a rash? Is that against the Geneva Convention? /sarcasm

22 posted on 04/10/2003 4:22:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: DCPatriot
LOL... well, as I heard, there is information in Saddam's hometown that is where the target area to be.... Where they think the enmass Saddam troops will be hunkered into... if bunkered, boom, all done!.... ;o) But the word was, or feeling that this may be over by the weekend.. I don't know, depending on the other skirmishes...
23 posted on 04/10/2003 4:26:06 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: SENTINEL
Great pic, even shows the expert that probably knows the most about this bomb.
24 posted on 04/10/2003 4:26:22 PM PDT by geopyg
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To: runningbear
The C-5 is called the Galaxy.

The C-17 is called the Globemaster III.

25 posted on 04/10/2003 4:38:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Rest in pieces Saddam!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Hmmm, so what's the "kill" range of this monster? Or is it mainly used for psychological effects? It would seem to be more efficient to use ten 2000 lb. bombs instead of a single MOAB. Or are we looking to plumb some depths, requiring a large, single missile?
26 posted on 04/10/2003 4:39:46 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Paleo Conservative
that was Yahoo's mistake...;o) Thanks for alerting me to that...
27 posted on 04/10/2003 4:41:39 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: DCPatriot
"OTOH.....who gives a damned what they think?"


They will roast us no mater what we do or not. So it is very tempting to do it the "easy" way, isn't i? That would be like "shake and bake", and would spare lives, ours of course.
28 posted on 04/10/2003 4:49:51 PM PDT by Minty
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To: Paleo Conservative
"The C-5 is called the Galaxy.
The C-17 is called the Globemaster III."

I know about the C-5 but can the C-17 also carry the M1A1? I thought only the Galaxy was large enough.

Hercs Forever
29 posted on 04/10/2003 4:50:30 PM PDT by NFOShekky (Fights On)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"The C-5 is called the Galaxy.
The C-17 is called the Globemaster III."

I know about the C-5 but can the C-17 also carry the M1A1? I thought only the Galaxy was large enough.

Hercs Forever
30 posted on 04/10/2003 4:51:09 PM PDT by NFOShekky (Fights On)
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To: DCPatriot
Uh, so we drop a couple over residential neigborhoods?

Not exactly.

Siege, followed by a reasonable period of warning to allow non combatants to exit, followed by an orderly destruction of targets based on thier military significance.

Along the way, constant communication with the clan should they elect to take their chances with a miltary tribunal.

Remember almost all the Ba'th party leaders and Iraq's military leaders came from this town and most are relatives of Saddam's.

31 posted on 04/10/2003 4:51:49 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SENTINEL
I wonder why we bother to paint it orange. What color is the Father Of All Bombs?
32 posted on 04/10/2003 4:52:06 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: loudmouths
They don't need it. The war is essentially over except the sniping and homicide bombers.
33 posted on 04/10/2003 4:55:19 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
not even close.

I heard there is some huge chemical "facility" in the western desert being guarded by one of the remaining Republican Guard divisions. If I had to place a bet, I would say the MOAB is for this location.
34 posted on 04/10/2003 4:57:59 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: loudmouths; Paul Atreides; jammer; Slyfox; AnnO; Illbay; Cagey; Larry Lucido; EternalVigilance; ...
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35 posted on 04/10/2003 5:05:40 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Whack, Fal-De-La!; Babylon is fallen!)
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To: NFOShekky
No, I think the C-130 carries the MOAB.
36 posted on 04/10/2003 5:07:11 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: runningbear
that was Yahoo's mistake...;o) Thanks for alerting me to that.

No problem. Perhaps Yahoo is aptly named.

37 posted on 04/10/2003 5:08:28 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Rest in pieces Saddam!)
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To: oceanview
Would it be smart to hit such a facility with a decidedly "non-precision" weapon?

I can't see that.

For one thing, you don't know what's there, and what you may spread all over creation. For another, we need to get in there and actually SEE this stuff, catalog and measure, etc.

Wiping out Saddam's evidence for him doesn't seem smart.
38 posted on 04/10/2003 5:08:37 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: NFOShekky
I know about the C-5 but can the C-17 also carry the M1A1?
I thought only the Galaxy was large enough.

Prior to the C-17, only C-5's could carry the M1. The C-17 can't carry it as far without refuelling, but it can land on short rough runways carrying an M1. Supposedly a C-5 can carry two M1's, but I don't know how much range it has carrying that load. GlobalSecurity.org says that a C-5 can carry only one M1, but The Aviation Zone says two.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m1-intro.htm

http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/c5.asp

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/c-17-history.htm

http://www.theaviationzone.com/factsheets/c17.asp

39 posted on 04/10/2003 5:35:59 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Rest in pieces Saddam!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
LOL... okay... Just like yesterday they were screwing up on some other pics, but finally recapped it..... ;o)
40 posted on 04/10/2003 6:13:33 PM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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