Russia will guarantee the security of North Korea (1950 redux?)

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[struwwelpeter]

Like a dog returning to its vomit, Russia returns to her old ways.

And Kim-boy desperately needs a smack-down.

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[rimmont]

Russia must be contained and squeezed very hard!

[goldstategop]

The Russians couldn't beat the U.S military. They can't even put down a provincial rebellion in Chenchya.

[FreeCanuckistan]

Another good reason to 'mop-up' in the mid-east. The Russians feel the squeeze.....and can't do a thing about it now.

[struwwelpeter]

Related article:

9 April 2003 g., 07:38

North Korea considers US aggression against Iraq as confirmation of its fears that soon the sights of the US will set on the PDRK.

UN adviser to the secretary general Maurice Strong reported that he learned this from the North Korean leadership during consultations in Pyongyang on March 20th. Strong noted that in North Korea "no one wants war, but they are prepared for it."

On Wednesday the UN Security Council intends to discuss the situation relating to North Korea's abandonment of the nuclear nondissemination treaty, reports Interfaks.

In this case North Korea has declared that any sanctions in will be a declaration of war.

The UN Security Council will conduct closed consultations on the nuclear problems North Korea

On 12 February the leadership council of International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) decided to introduce the nuclear problems of North Korea for the examination by the Security Council. However, the SC did not consider it necessary to begin debates on these problems and a week later passed them off for study by experts.

All this time the US tried to attain a statement from the council, that Pyongyang's decision to abandon the nuclear nondissemination agreement would be condemned and call on the DPRK to observe its international obligations.

However, diplomatic sources reported, China decisively came forward against this. Peking supports the position of the DPRK, that the solution to the crisis must be via direct talks between Pyongyang and Washington, and not within the framework OF UN.

In Pyongyang they consider an examination of the North Korean nuclear problem in the UN a "prelude to the war."

Coming before journalists on the eve of consultations, special adviser to the secretary general on North Korea Maurice Strong expressed his opinion that the best outcome would be the absence any solution.

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From the main article, it appears Mr. Strong got his weak solution. And it seems China is the main man behind Kim. Like Russia got stuck holding France's and Germany's bags, Russia will probably get stifted over this one as well.

I suppose they could care less, as long as nervous despots keep buying Russian.

[RichInOC]

Kim...in our prisons, we have arrangements such as this, where the big prisoner guarantees the security of the little prisoner...for a price.

[JohnGaltSpeaking]

Didnt Russia learn its lesson the last time they vowed to bury the West, win an arms war and prop up brutal communist puppet states? I know history repeats itself but damn...

[chasio649]

I'm with Dennis Miller....I want to see Kim's head in a pickle jar, under a tent...i would pay a nickel to see it.

[struwwelpeter]

To be fair, Ivanov stated that "Russia was ready" to guarrantee North Korea's security if they abandoned their nuclear program and opened facilities to IAEA.

Not quite the same as offering to save one's butt, and in light of how well Saddam was able to hide his nuclear facilities, not a very wise statement.

But that's why it was phrased so obscurely, by a non-politician, and to journalists to boot. A very tentative testing the waters.

After Condalezza bitch-slaps the other Ivanov, this will be retracted or rephrased.

[happygrl]

Ouch.

[RichInOC]

Come to think of it, isn't that how Russia set up security arrangements for its neighbors last time?

[happygrl]

That was the USSR. I had hoped that those techniques had been disavowed.

Doesn't look like either Russia or China is willing or able to deal with their problem child.

[livius]

Like Russia got stuck holding France's and Germany's bags...

True, Russia is not emerging as a very impressive international player.

However, interestingly enough, it emerges from the records that Russia sold way more arms to Iraq than did any other state, including France and Germany. I wonder if selling arms to Kim is also part of the economy of the "New Russia?"

[tm22721]

if the UN Security Council decides on this issue, they will be ignored by Pyongyang with regard to other precedents

The precedent established by Saddam ignoring 18 UN resolutions finally enforced by the US ?

BUMP

[struwwelpeter]

Everyone sells arms, and France was also a major supplier to Iraq. I think France sells to every nation, even Israel. If you're underage, you can just stay out in the car while France runs in the store and buys whatever you want.

Realistically, I'd much rather North Korea bought Russian weapons and received Russian advisers, than British ones. Or even Chinese. We've been studying and developing solutions for Russian weapons and tactics for a half-century - we've got it down to a science.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Russia will win: orders for weapons will grow

The Iraq war was such a great sales demo of Russian arms, I want to end up like Iraq too!

[Just mythoughts]

Please give facts, evidence that China is behind the N. Korean nuclear threats.


N. Korea is a stalinist regime has been since Stalin controlled them at the end of WWII. The mental Il is a want-a-be Stalin. Putin sent the mental Il horses for his birthday.

Keep hearing that China is shaking the N. Korean tree, but never, never, never, any proof.

All ties, threads, lead to Russia and since 1994 Bill Clinton. Russia could no longer afford the upkeep of N. Korea so they got Bill Clinton to take them off their hands.

We the US became the N. Korean sponser, nukes and food.

Everything I have read regarding China and N. Korea has said that China fears most, millions of starving N. Koreans flooding into China.

Bill Clinton is the promoter of giving the N. Koreans what they want he has said "they only want respect", and don't want to become like E. Germany.

Russia like the Clintons sure try their best to stay hidden in stirring the caldron.

[struwwelpeter]

We weren't exactly fighting Russia's most modern exports in Iraq, but it can't help that almost everyone holding a Kalashnikov or riding in an Osnovnoy Tank got pasted.

[Beck_isright]

But, but, but, Putin is our friend. He even went to a bbq with W. </sarcasm off

DO NOT TRUST THE RUSKIES. THEY ARE GOING TO BETRAY US.

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