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To: MOX
"You see, by your argument you are either a solipsist or complete moral relativist. Both of these lead to utter chaos."......

Ah....I see because I don't believe the way you do...I'm whatever you say. I do set the standards for myself. Society sets standards as well, mostly those don't meet my standards,mine are higher. I've always based my attitude, actions and standards on whether or not they would make my mother proud.

What makes Sadamm a demon dictator?? That's a pretty stupid question, his record that's what!! I'm not a saint, don't think I ever claimed to be. Got anymore?? I mean you can do better can't you??

42 posted on 04/09/2003 11:50:28 AM PDT by Ga Rob (I'm not the cause of your problems.....you are!!)
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To: Ga Rob
Hey wisenheimer, this is a philosophical question. You've already admitted there is a universal standard for right and wrong. My point is you must also admit that this standard cannot be derived by your whim or your mother's pride... it must have a source other than yourself. If you dissagree with that than you are an adherent of solipism. If you believe anyone can determine right and wrong for themselves then you are a moral relativist. I'm sure you are neither. I'm asking you to consider the true source of the standard. Christianity maintains the source is the Triune God. Athiests are moral relativists. Most 3rd world dictators are solipsists.
56 posted on 04/09/2003 12:31:31 PM PDT by MOX
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To: Ga Rob
Hey wisenheimer, this is a philosophical question. You've already admitted there is a universal standard for right and wrong. My point is you must also admit that this standard cannot be derived by your whim or your mother's pride... it must have a source other than yourself. If you dissagree with that than you are an adherent of solipism. If you believe anyone can determine right and wrong for themselves then you are a moral relativist. I'm sure you are neither. I'm asking you to consider the true source of the standard. Christianity maintains the source is the Triune God. Athiests are moral relativists. Most 3rd world dictators are solipsists.
58 posted on 04/09/2003 12:33:59 PM PDT by MOX
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