[Ga Rob]

It's quite simple, I know morally what is right or wrong. Maybe it was the way I was raised. It really is quite simple. Murder=Bad. Stealing=Bad. Helping Others=Good. Abortion=Bad. Being faithful=Good. Liars=Bad. Liberty=Good. Tyranny=Bad. Do you really need a book written by men to tell you these things?

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking "religon" for others. I believe that whatever gets you through life and helps you to be a good person is great. I just find that I don't need it.

By the way.....super extra guard flame suit on

[MOX]

Ah.... so YOU are the standard, the last word on universal right and wrong? Or do you mean each individual sets his/her own standard? If the latter, what makes Sadam a demon dictator and you a patriot saint? You see, by your argument you are either a solipsist or complete moral relativist. Both of these lead to utter chaos.

[zeebob]

I firmly agree with you on this. I was a born again christian since 1975& before that was raised catholic. However through much study &soul searching have come to Know that indeed all holy books are of human origin. The throwing off of dogma was breathtaking!!! One does not need a holy book to know. One only needs to seek deep within to find gnosis, the knowledge of the truth. Each choice we make we must decide which path to walk down; good or evil, light or dark, service to others or service to self. Most religionists, when confronted with this perspective become very defensive and some very offensive because they are very insecure. Its gotta be their way or the highway. I know, I used to be like that.