Enemy Within May Complicate War (Muslims 2% Of US Military)

Insight Magazine ^ | 4-9-2003 | Scott L. Wheeler

[blam]

Time to take some serious action about Muslims in the military.

[blam]

Correction on title, that is 2% of the Army.

[elbucko]

Just pretend they are like the old Indian Scouts. You know. The ones that led Custer to the Little Big Horn....;^)

[so_real]

All it takes is one single Benedict Arnold to do an incredible amount of damage.

[TLBSHOW]

bookmarked

[Centurion2000]

I'd also be curious about what percentage of classified information rating (confidential, secret and top secret) holders are muslim.

[nightdriver]

DoD regulations state: "Because of the separation of church and state in the Constitution of the United States and the prohibition of the establishment of religion, only churches and civilian religious organizations can ordain or appoint clergy."

But islam is not the "church."

Why don't they just go by the ruling of the New York State Supreme Court made in 1892 that islam is not to be tolerated in the U.S.?

[umgud]

How can a Muslim patriotically serve in the army of infidels, when his Koran teaches him to kill infidels? Not every Muslim kills infidels, but they all believe in the book that tells them to.

[Drammach]

One muslim nut case out of 8000.

Let's not get our panties in a bunch, OK?

[Salman]

Why don't they just go by the ruling of the New York State Supreme Court made in 1892 that islam is not to be tolerated in the U.S.?

Tell us more about this please.

[so_real]

There are 50 million million cells in the human body; all it takes is one cancerous one to bring down the whole works. There's no reason 8000 soldiers couldn't remain state-side when they have a pre-existing condition that could be a detriment to the success of the mission or the safety of the troops. We're setting a bad precident for future conflicts in allowing, even encouraging, those to serve who have conflicts of conscience. My opinion only, your mileage may vary, but it does bundle my undies :-)

[Mo1]

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[Drammach]

Ever think about how many Jews are over there?

What if they go nuts and start killing muslims?
And how about the Hindu soldiers?
I'm sure You've read about the riots and murders in India, and even more so, Kashmir..
And fundamentalist Christians, especially the "cultists", and the "end of days" christians..

While You're at it, let's be sure to check out those soldiers with sympathies for the Aryan (white supremist) movement, just plain rascists, social democrats, (neo-nazis) and then there are... well, you get it..

They're all "Americans" over there..
Many Iraqis are confused by the many "different" americans.
They think the Mexican soldiers are Iraqi, Saudi, Jordanian, Syrian, etc.
Same with the black soldiers.
They don't know what to think of the soldiers with asian heritage.. ( one soldier was immeadiately nicknamed "Jackie Chan" by the Iraqi children. )
The soldiers just reply "American"..
They don't say african american, or mexican american, or asian american.

It's pretty much the same about religion.
It doesn't matter over there. They're all Americans.
Whatever God they pray to, it's to stay alive.
They don't have time for theological differences..

The muslim soldiers over there are Americans, first and foremost.
We have had one incident involving a muslim soldier, which didn't even have anything to do with religion, and we're ready to segregate them all.

Sorry, I can't even get close to that concept.

[Nitro]

Sometimes it is a lie...

I was in the Navy and I recall overheard a black sailor telling others they could cause trouble by demanding a pork-free diet.

I have no problem with real religion, but these guys were using religion to be a pain in the ass.

And that made me extraordinarily angry.

[so_real]

Didn't mean to touch a nerve their, Drammach. Let me widen my point for you. I would not send Jews to kill Jews. I would not send Christians to kill Christians. I would not send Hindus to kill Hindus. Etc, etc, etc. Does this make sense to you?

Theology is the most powerful dividing factor out there; skin color is a distant second. For the safety of our troops, there's no reason not to recognize this and take precautions. The world would not come to a screeching halt if 8000 muslims were not called to serve.

You seem to have a bit of chip on your shoulder. In fact, I'm glad we have multi-cultural troops, and I'm certainly not a racist. Yet, you immediately assumed otherwise and jumped down my throat. I'm glad you "can't even get close to that concept", because that means you are probably a really decent person. But, in reality, others are not.

If a known predisposition exists that can be easily controlled and may preserve the life of even a single soldier, why not act upon it? Without affecting the outcome of the battle (good, bad, or indifferent) two soldiers would be alive today and others could have been spared injury.

Again, I mean no offense. Ultimately we are on the same side. We both want to hear "mission accomplished, we're coming home".

[so_real]

Yup, like that lily-white all Christian boy - Timothy McVeigh.

I have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make here. Perhaps you could elucidate? Benedict Arnold was, as you say, "lily-white" and his parents were Calvinists. But what does Timothy McVeigh have to do with him?

[fire_eye]

I would not send Jews to kill Jews. I would not send Christians to kill Christians. I would not send Hindus to kill Hindus. Etc, etc, etc. Does this make sense to you?

No.

I don't care which invisible man in the clouds they worship - if they're in the American military, they'd better be ready to kill anyone who's threatening this country without hesitation, and without regard to race, religion, creed, color, sexual orientation, or choice of breakfast cereal.

That's what *I'm* paying them for...