***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[spectr17]

What are you trying to Dhue to us?

[bonfire]

hubby sleepin' like a baby.....I'm good to go!

What's the scoop tonight?

[Texas Tea]

I can't help but wonder about all these men in groups of 2 or more that are walking about the circle today. I wonder if they are the ones that have given up fighting and are going home.

[Timesink]

Shep Smith just decided to lecture his viewers the constitution and freedom of the press, and how the poor slobs at the Palestine hotel are being gagged (in effect) by Iraqi minders.

The Constitution argument doesn't hold up either, since none of the dead or injured are Americans (AFAIK). Nobody from Reuters is over there covering the war in order to uphold American ideological ideals.

[thedugal]

Achmed's playing kick the can.

[texasbluebell]

Ah yes, more eye candy!

Not bad, eh?

[GOPyouth]

Couldn't agree with you more. Shep got this one wrong. There is no comparison.Any "journalist" who agreed to stay in Baghdad as a "guest" of the Iraqi government basically agreed to become a propaganda tool, since they can't say or show anything that their minders don't want them too.

I'm trying my best not to sound like a broken record here, but I think that some people weren't listening closely to what Shep said. Looking at your statement, you just stated almost word for word what Shep said in his comment. He pointed out very clearly that every single journalist had an Iraqi official watching every single word they said. He said they were scared to death.

And repeating again, Shep was responding to emails saying that the reporters deserved to die. Shep had that right.

[Dolphy]

If he is involved on the wrong side, boy, did he screw up.

I am not a big Putin fan, even before his position on Iraq. I don't think, if he is involved, it would be in any way but beneath the table. He will keep it an arms length.

Your comments about us folding are exactly right. Saddam believed he wasn't taken out in the first Gulf War because of our unwillingness to die or kill. Clinton spent 8 years confirming this image. Saddam definitely thinks (thought) we will run if the images get ugly, and I don't think, regardless of Saddam's status, that opinion has faded for some yet.

[Mo1]

Else is on FNC saying that the tank commander might have thought a camera had shot at him and that is why he returned fire?

[umbagi]

I at least respect the "embeds" because before this war, they were required to go through boot camp

They've brought us some of the finest reporting I've ever seen. Rick L.'s last few reports were great; he took us there.

I respect the independents, too, until they start trashing the good guys without facts or trashing the facts to make their points. It's a rough business, and those in the middle of this war are giving us more information than anyone has ever had from a war zone before!

[spectr17]

CNN, Baria Alamuddin, Foreign editor, Al Hayat,

arab world reaction to Sodomy and buddies yucking it up in video this week was not good. People remember British rule of good times.

Aaron Brooks cuts her off to inject the gloom and doom

[texasbluebell]

Sugar overload? Ha! Maybe.

[bornintexas]

Well put! Another poster put it well, also. They keep harping on this 24-7 and telling us over and over who was killed, about his family, blah blah blah.....but when was the last time they told us the name of the last marine killed over and over and told us how brave he was to be there. By them reporting the "hotel" story over and over, it makes the marine death seem trivial. Move on, already!

[Prince Charles]

We can only hope so. The sooner they capitulate, the better.

[texasbluebell]

#382--nice one! (Adding to the collection...)