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Climate change could dry Great Lakes (Global warming alert)
UPI ^ | April 8, 2003

Posted on 04/08/2003 6:07:24 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

CHICAGO, April 8 (UPI) -- The Great Lakes states will look more like parts of the South and Southwest by the end of the century as a result of global warming, a report released Tuesday concludes.

The changes will lead to hot, dry summers and severe flooding in the winter and spring, the report, by the Union of Concerned Scientists and the Ecological Society of America, predicts.

"This is the most comprehensive assessment on global warming and the impact on the Great Lakes ever done," said Dr. Peter Frumhoff of the Union of Concerned Scientists.

The report forecasts within three decades summer in Illinois could feel more like Oklahoma and, by the end of the century, like eastern Texas. Toronto's climate will first begin to resemble New York and then warm until it is more akin to northern Virginia's.

Regionally, temperatures could increase as much as 18 degrees Fahrenheit in summer and 13 in winter. The result will be a longer growing season for farmers but 20 percent less soil moisture with attendant erosion, reduced yields and other problems.

"We may think we'll be able to take advantage of the warmer temperatures by going to the beach but the lake levels will be lower and there will be more beach closures," said Michelle Wander, a soil scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

Donald Wuebbles, head of the Department of Atmospheric Sciences at U. of I., discounted a recent Smithsonian Institution study that found temperatures were warmer during the Middle Ages in Europe than they are now, saying the scientists involved had not fully analyzed the data.

Wuebbles said looking at core ice and soil samples going back 1,000 years, there's no question the climate globally is warmer now than in any previous era.

"We are conducting the largest experiment in human history ... (by) increasing the concentration of carbon dioxide and other (greenhouse) gases," Wuebbles said. The action, he said, will not only have an impact on the climate but on human health as well.

The scientists are calling for a reduction in emissions of heat-trapping gases, minimization of pressures on ecosystems and planning for the impact of climatological changes. They also are pushing increased use of renewable energy sources including wind power and biomass to help reverse the increases.

Thirteen states -- Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Texas, Nevada, California, New Mexico and Arizona -- already have adopted measures specifying goals for renewable energy production. Four others -- Illinois, Vermont, Maryland and New York -- are considering similar legislation.

"Waiting 10 or more years to reduce emissions will increase the eventual severity, expense and likelihood of irreversible losses -- a terrible legacy to leave our children and grandchildren," Frumhoff, director of the Global Environment Program. "By acting now, leaders and citizens can protect the rich natural heritage, vibrant economy and well-being of people and communities throughout the Great Lakes region."

The two-year study, "Confronting Climate Change in the Great Lakes Region: Impacts on our Communities and Ecosystems," was conducted by 13 scientists from universities in Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Toronto, using advanced models of the Earth's climate system. The study was presented at news conferences in Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Toronto and Madison, Wis.


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To: Indy Pendance
Here's a very interesting side point to large bodies of water drying up.

If the Stait of Gibralta were to be blocked the Mediterranean Sea would dry up!
21 posted on 04/08/2003 6:48:25 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: Indy Pendance
Wouldn't that make them the "Not So Great Lakes?"

I wonder if they're already taking reservations for the "Edmund Fitzgerald Restaurant?"

So will lake effect snow now be called mud hole effect snow?
22 posted on 04/08/2003 6:48:58 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Havoc
Global warming is junk science.
23 posted on 04/08/2003 6:49:30 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
"cooler near the lake" has an entire new meaning....
24 posted on 04/08/2003 6:51:31 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: TaMoDee
I heard that the Straits of Gibraltar are being ran off by the Gays of Gibraltar.
25 posted on 04/08/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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To: Indy Pendance
It snowed October 24 here in Central NH.

It snowed today. It was 14 degrees yesterday AM when I walked the dog.

Global warming can't get here soon enough.

26 posted on 04/08/2003 6:53:15 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: ml/nj
"Liberals have been wrong about everything in the last half century ... It is not an accident that, today, the left's single biggest cause is global warming.
This time, conservatives won't be able to prove them wrong for a thousand years." -- Anne Coulter
27 posted on 04/08/2003 6:56:44 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Batrachian
Well, Chicago does need more real estate.

Lots of prime land, millions to be made, when Lake Michigan goes dry. Property values on Lake Shore Dr. drop though.

28 posted on 04/08/2003 7:01:37 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Indy Pendance
Well, since they can predict what the weather will be like thirty years from now it should be easy to tell me what the weather will be like on April 17th in south-western Pennsylvania.

This story is male bovine excrement.

29 posted on 04/08/2003 7:03:37 PM PDT by metalurgist (Never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people....... U S Congress's real motto)
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To: Indy Pendance
Needs to step out side in New York.
30 posted on 04/08/2003 7:05:33 PM PDT by usslsm51 (ui)
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To: Indy Pendance
"The Great Lakes states will look more like parts of the South and Southwest by the end of the century as a result of global warming, a report released Tuesday concludes."

I'm pissing myself laughing at this article! I live within 50 miles of Lakes Huron, Michigan, and Superior. My primary area of interest is Superior, and I'm here to tel you that Superior's shoreline will NEVER resemble the south. It's a matter of volume, and the lower lakes also follow suit. This article is unmitigated bullshit....

31 posted on 04/08/2003 7:07:33 PM PDT by yooper
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To: Indy Pendance
Wuebbles said looking at core ice and soil samples going back 1,000 years, there's no question the climate globally is warmer now than in any previous era.

"Wuebbles wobble, but they don't fall down." ... for those of you old enough to remember that commercial.

"Any previous era" applies to BEFORE 1000 years ago. In fact, according to my very outdated dictionary, an era is "a division of geological history of highest rank." The dictionary gives durations of eras as anywhere from 1 to 75 million years.

Small data samples over a short period of time corrupt the experiment.

/john

32 posted on 04/08/2003 7:08:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (I'm just a cook.)
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To: Indy Pendance
They should complain to "Mother Nature". She is, after all, the sole arbitor of all things natural. We, as mere humans can act as a gnats flatulance in a hurricane w/ regard to things ecological.



33 posted on 04/08/2003 7:20:10 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: Indy Pendance
Were the Great Lakes dry during the Medieval years?
34 posted on 04/08/2003 7:21:27 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Even if this garbage were so, it would only mean that more moisture would be evaproated from the oceans increasing the amount of rainfall. The temperate and tropical zones would shift farther from the equator. We could have palm trees in Montana and Siberia. It all balances out.
35 posted on 04/08/2003 7:26:58 PM PDT by nightdriver (^)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Probably higher levels than today. Study the massive Lake Agassiz (remenants of Lake Winnipeg and surrounding lakes, including Lake of the Woods in Minnesota), which was larger than any modern great lake today. It takes a long time for a large lake to 'dry up', let along 5 of them.
36 posted on 04/08/2003 7:31:13 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Here's a picture of the dried up lake.


37 posted on 04/08/2003 7:33:02 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Ooops, I can hear the demand for more federal funding because we're facing a disaster in the next 1,000 years. Maybe Hans Blix will listen to them. He seems to be out of a job right now and he is more concerned about global warming.
38 posted on 04/08/2003 7:35:08 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: *Global Warming Hoax
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39 posted on 04/08/2003 7:41:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Indy Pendance
The Great Lakes states will look more like parts of the South and Southwest by the end of the century as a result of global warming, a report released Tuesday concludes.

My Daddy predicted this 40 years ago. He told me the South would rise again.
40 posted on 04/08/2003 7:55:15 PM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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