UN gives warning to US and Britain

UK Telegraph ^ | April 8, 2003 | UK Telegraph

[biblewonk]

In Camelot they said it should be "Might FOR Right". I kind of like that, because that is what we are doing. Using our might to do what's right.

When I was a kid my Mom used to always say might doesn't make right. It turns out that she was wrong. The Old testament shows that might does make right. I asked my son what made the constitution a legal document the other day. It was the fact that we won the war against England. It would have been an illegal document had we lost.

[Southern Federalist]

My assumption would be that a United Democratic Nations would not aspire to be a world government, since the very idea is intrinsically un-democratic.

I think the man made it clear what he meant by democracy - government that is accountable to the governed and recognizes limits on what it can do to human beings. He isn't using the term in the 18th century sense.

The use of "democracy" to mean "the opposite of the Hitler and Stalin regimes" came into use more than fifty years ago. That use of the term is not going to go away, and flying off the handle at the sight of the word, without paying any attention to the way it's being used in context, does not really contribute much to a discussion.

[ApesForEvolution]

"My assumption would be that a United Democratic Nations would not aspire to be a world government, since the very idea is intrinsically un-democratic."

That's what all world-government debates start out like. Then a bureacracy is built and in every case it ends up at the inevitable point - a sovereignty-usurping group of ever-growing proportions.

I think the man made it clear what he meant by democracy - government that is accountable to the governed and recognizes limits on what it can do to human beings. He isn't using the term in the 18th century sense.

Oh, I know what the context is. And, in the 21st century, the world will see internet-voting without representation. So the uninformed, idiot-sheeple will have the opportunity to make self-centered decisions after being properly 'propagandized' (tenderized) and then pure democracy (the most dangerous form) will rule the roost and take us down paths we will wish we hadn't gone down.

The use of "democracy" to mean "the opposite of the Hitler and Stalin regimes" came into use more than fifty years ago. That use of the term is not going to go away, and flying off the handle at the sight of the word, without paying any attention to the way it's being used in context, does not really contribute much to a discussion.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Representative Democracy has been shifting toward push-poll driven Pure Democracy in the states for the last several decades by the communists amongst us that use our virtues against us.

I understand the 'context' perfectly well and my 'contribution' need not be accepted by you or anyone. History seems to keep repeating itself, doesn't it? Hmmm....

[Ciexyz]

Hey Kofi, put a sock in it willya.