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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Lets translate that and strip it of its obfuscations so that its clearer to everyone here:

"My solution is that Israel go to war against unarmed civilians in Gaza and the West Bank and either expel them or kill them if they fail to leave immediately for Egypt or Jordan upon Israel's request."

Did you hear that on Al Jazeera?

Pick a boundary, any boundary, where the Jews have traded land for peace with the "palestinians" (a fictitious "people" whose identity rests on Historical lies) and have not been attacked by their peace partners. Why should Israel recognize past treaties that the "palestinians" routinely and murderously ignore?

There is only one madman who carried out a comparable policy to this - Stalin, who forcibly expelled and murdered millions of people within Russia, and then within the Baltic States, Poland, and Germany once he got the chance to occupy them with his army.

Again, Historically inaccurate. In response to their war of aggession under Hitler, the Germans gave up part of their territory to Poland; that's the model. It's long past time the Arabs paid that price for their repeated wars of agression against Israel, and their obvious goal of genocide.

Giving the Arabs ever more Israeli land rewards their terror, and encourages more of the same.




273 posted on 04/08/2003 2:02:18 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Again, Historically inaccurate. In response to their war of aggession under Hitler, the Germans gave up part of their territory to Poland; that's the model. It's long past time the Arabs paid that price for their repeated wars of agression against Israel, and their obvious goal of genocide.

Ummm .... no. Stalin's war machine rolled through with a campaign of mass terror against civilians, causing half the population to flee. The rest were then forcibly expelled after the war.

As to the Poles from L'viv (L'vov if you will), and the rest of the eastern territories, they certainly in no way could be called "agressors", yet they too were expelled from their homes by the millions by Stalin (those lucky enough not to end up in the Gulag) and forcibly hearded off to new living arrangements. These where by no means the only victims of Stalin's campaign of this sort, as the kalmyks, Volga Germans, Ukranians, Crimean Tartars and others could tell you.

Giving the Arabs ever more Israeli land rewards their terror, and encourages more of the same.

Perhaps I missed the day when any Israeli land was ever given to an Arab??? Are you referring to the Sinai Peninsula? Its certainly a novel theory of Israeli land that would include that territory.

311 posted on 04/09/2003 6:04:22 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Sabertooth
Pick a boundary, any boundary, where the Jews have traded land for peace with the "palestinians" (a fictitious "people" whose identity rests on Historical lies)

Perhaps I missed the history where it was exposed the Palestinians were not really a people, and had not spent the past 1500 years worshipping in the Church of the Nativity, the Dome of the Rock, and other ancient Churches and Mosques throughout Israel/Palestine. I suppose it was just all European and Arab tourists in the region on holiday?

Why not enlighten me on their non-peoplehood?

319 posted on 04/09/2003 6:37:09 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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