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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
You might also ask where the church was during the Holocaust in Europe.

According to Rabbi Pinchas Lapide, former Israeli ambassador to Italy, the answer is that the Church was saving between 700,000 and 860,000 Jews from death at the hands of the Nazis. Archbishop Roncalli, who, as papal nuncio in Istanbul, saved thousands of Jews himself, said, when thanked for his work, "Don't thank me; thank the Pope. It was all done on his orders."

Incidentally, between 3 and 5 million Catholics died in the Holocaust. There were hundreds of priests (and other clergymen) imprisoned in Dachau alone.

7 posted on 04/06/2003 1:53:56 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
Ah, the old canard about the Church being pro-Nazi has resurfaced. Clearly, some Big Lies are harder to put down than others.

But on to other matters. When the libertarian community concedes the moral imperative to protect the unborn child against aggression, including maternal aggression, it will become consistent with its own ethic. As Andrew Melechinsky liked to say, the most beautiful thing about libertarianism is how pro-life it is... in every other way. Doris Gordon has grasped that. May her influence increase!

There may be limits on our ability to enforce laws against abortion, which must be respected. We'll have to fight about the legal definition of protected human life for a while. But the result should be a regime in which at least those unborn who are presumedly capable of surviving outside the womb may not legally be killed by anyone. We can take it from there.

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8 posted on 04/06/2003 2:19:39 PM PDT by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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To: Campion
Ping.

Yes. You hit "a raw nerve." It bothers me when ignorant, bigoted, hateful people repeat the lie that Pius XII did little or nothing about the killing of Jews. Call that a raw nerve if you like. Do you go around asking Jews if they eat Matzohs made from the blood of Gentile babies at Passover, and then attribute their reaction to "a raw nerve"?

12 posted on 04/06/2003 6:43:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Campion; O.C. - Old Cracker
According to Rabbi Pinchas Lapide, former Israeli ambassador to Italy, the answer is that the Church was saving between 700,000 and 860,000 Jews from death at the hands of the Nazis. Archbishop Roncalli, who, as papal nuncio in Istanbul, saved thousands of Jews himself, said, when thanked for his work, "Don't thank me; thank the Pope. It was all done on his orders."

Still waiting for your reply, Cracker.

19 posted on 04/07/2003 7:00:48 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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