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To: Cboldt
Faith is belief without proof. Faith is not "knowledge." ...at the very bottom, there is faith, and only faith.

These statements are incorrect. I see no reason why faith would be defined in such a way. Especially since faith is not unique to religion.

For example, many scientists practice faith. Scientific theories--even widely accepted theories--are based in faith. For instance, faith that the laws of physics are and will remain uniform, etc.

Surely such faith does not, by definition, exclude knowledge or proof.

87 posted on 04/06/2003 4:35:33 PM PDT by tame
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To: tame
Cboldt said: "Faith is belief without proof. Faith is not 'knowledge.' Most believers bolster their faith with a reasoning process, but at the very bottom, there is faith, and only faith."

tame snipped my statement to "Faith is belief without proof. Faith is not 'knowledge.' ...at the very bottom, there is faith, and only faith." and went on to say . . .

These statements are incorrect. I see no reason why faith would be defined in such a way. Especially since faith is not unique to religion.

Jeez louise. My comments in context were pretty clearly limited to religious faith, and faith-based religions. I'm not trying to make a comprehenisve catalog of possible meanings and uses of the words "faith" "belief" "knowledege" "reasoning" and "proof" (among others).

I'm pretty sure the thought I am trying to convey is understandable, even if you think my choice of nouns sucks.

91 posted on 04/06/2003 4:52:45 PM PDT by Cboldt
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