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BILL, HILLARY, SAUL, AND MORAL RELATIVISM Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary
FR ^ | 03/23/00 | The Wanderer

Posted on 04/06/2003 9:34:52 AM PDT by Liz

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To: Liz
Maybe the public should hear more about Hitlery and Bill and Saul. Maybe the public should read Hitlery's thesis.
21 posted on 04/07/2003 9:34:43 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Liz
None of this is news. Barbara Olson's book, "Hell To Pay" which dissects Miss Hillary, used Alinsky's comments as chapter lead-ins.

We miss ya, BKO - E
22 posted on 04/07/2003 3:38:47 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Endeavor
We know it's not news but we need to remind people of Hitlery's treachery again and again.
23 posted on 04/07/2003 4:36:00 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I meant that rhetorically, not critically, of your post.
24 posted on 04/07/2003 4:46:21 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I read Hillary's thesis on a FreeRepublic post during the Monica/Impeachment times. Anything in Whitewater archives?
25 posted on 04/08/2003 12:21:23 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik; backhoe
Hmmm - I will call on the master Chronicler of Hillary's crimes and see if we can dig it up. Backhoe - that would be you.
26 posted on 04/08/2003 1:27:22 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Endeavor
Yes, thanks for the reminder - and yes, we do miss her. (not Hillary - Barbara).

I think Saddam/Stalin/Mao/Alinsky is/was/would be proud of how Hillary dealt with her nemesis, don't you?

27 posted on 04/08/2003 1:31:17 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Liz
I still like my namesake's aphorism from 200 years ago...

"Fear, greed and vanity. These are the three great levers by which men are moved."

And the left has paid close attention, haven't they?

    * Fear -- Because of George Bush, this poor black man got dragged to his death in Texas.

    * Greed -- We must put a stop to George Bush's war on terrorism, so that money can be used for better purposes, such as "free" education, "free" income, "free" medical care and anything else you want for "free."

    * Vanity -- you're just as deserving of high grades, school admission, professional licensure and six-figure income as anybody else, just because you exist.


28 posted on 04/08/2003 1:59:43 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Yes, but here are some rules for God's radicals they may not understand:

1. God's strength is made perfect in our weakness as we rely on HIM, not on ourselves.

2. Humble ourselves before God and HE will lift us up.

3. Behold, God is at work creating a new heaven and a NEW EARTH in which there will be NO TRACE of Alinsky or any of his disciples who will all be in hell with their leader, the prince of darkness.

29 posted on 04/08/2003 2:33:06 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bonaparte
Oh - and also - it pleased God to take the weak things, the foolish things of this world to confound the "wisdom of the wise" (in their own eyes) bring His Salvation to His Beloveds through the "foolishness" of the Cross upon which the Prince of GLORY died!

"If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me". Another "radical" gave that "rule" and it is one that neither Hitlery, nor Alinsky, nor Stalin, nor Saddam, nor all the gates of hell shall prevail against!

30 posted on 04/08/2003 2:36:41 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Liz
Bump for later.
31 posted on 04/08/2003 2:36:43 PM PDT by Springman
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To: ntnychik
I read Hillary's thesis on a FreeRepublic post..

GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, UNBELIEVABLE NEWS

compiled by James W. Harris

Hillary Clinton's Mystery Thesis

Recently syndicated columnist Jack Anderson was doing a story on Hillary Clinton, and in the process his staff requested a copy of her 1969 senior thesis from Wellesley College. It was a seemingly simple request, since normally college theses are public record, available to anyone.

Not, however, in this case. Anderson was told that the current Wellesley president had created a new rule in 1992. The new rule, Anderson says, is that "...the college would seal the senior theses of any Wellesley grads who were either the first lady or the president of the United States." (Perhaps not coincidentally, the president of Wellesley is a long-time friend of Mrs. Clinton's.)

Okay, Anderson asked, can you just tell us the *subject* of the paper? No. Well, was the new policy enacted at Clinton's request? Again, no answer.

Perplexed and intrigued, Anderson contacted Hillary's White House press corps. He was assured it was no big deal, and that he'd be sent a copy of the paper, along with an explanation of why it had been sealed. Several weeks passed, however, and no thesis appeared. Finally he was told that no copy would be coming -- and no explanation would be given.

Eventually Anderson and his staff discovered some answers on their own. Hillary's thesis, it turns out, was a critique of Lyndon Johnson's "War on Poverty" programs. Her conclusion: community-based government anti-poverty programs don't work.

Which may explain all the secrecy, since President Clinton recently called for federal funding for a number of... community-based government anti-poverty programs.

(Source: column by Jack Anderson and Jan Moller)

Source

32 posted on 04/08/2003 3:15:56 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: Bonaparte
Hell has three gates: lust, anger and greed," the Bhagavad Gita
33 posted on 04/08/2003 3:27:54 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I have often looked for her Senior Thesis and have only read Class of 1969, on the occasion of Wellesley's 91st Commencement, May 31, 1969.

Where she followed Senator Brooke 'in attack mode'.

34 posted on 04/08/2003 3:37:29 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: the_doc
She's not the only disciple:

Daley, Jackson, and Sharpton appear to be following the revolutionary tactics advocated by yet another Chicago militant: the late Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky, a life-long Marxist, was a Chicago organizer who was dedicated to winning at all cost. He once wrote, "The most unethical of all means, is the non-use of any means." In simple terms, "Do whatever it takes to win." If that means lying, cheating, and stealing--so be it. Win at any cost.

Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer, who, notes Alinsky, "is the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom."

Saul Alinsky's strategies are clearly at work in Florida. One of his teachings is that "Truth is relative and changing." We are seeing this in the behavior of Gore operatives who change election rules after the fact and redefine "dimpled chads" as votes for Al Gore. Another Alinsky dictim teaches that "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." The vicious attack against Katherine Harris is a prime example of this tactic. One of Alinsky's more memorable comments is this: "To hell with charity. The only thing you get is what you're strong enough to get--so you had better organize."

The spirit of Saul Alinsky is alive and well in Florida's election battle. His spirit is also alive and well in the heart of Senator-elect Hillary Clinton. Alinsky was a friend and mentor to Hillary. In fact, she adored this Marxist so much that she wrote her senior college thesis on Alinsky's organizing tactics and strategies.
http://www.worthynews.com/commentary/chicago-politics.html
35 posted on 04/08/2003 3:48:55 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Apparently Hitlery got the school to keep her thesis under
wraps so that voters would not find out her true identity.
36 posted on 04/08/2003 4:02:00 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz; the_doc
Hardly had she raised her foot to step over the threshold of radicalism than she turned back. She declined to go with the SNCC, turned down an offer to work with Saul Alinsky as a community organizer in Chicago.

Anderson quotes her political science prof at Wellesley, Alan Schecter, as saying that by the late l960s his pupil had decided that the best radical strategy was to "'use the legal system' as an agent of change." She wasn't alone in that calculation. The long march of the left through the courtrooms was under way: the world would become a better place, courtesy of courtroom briefs, complaints and class action suits.

She declines the road that led to West 11th St and goes instead to Yale Law School. She works for John Doar, helping draft articles of impeachment against Nixon.

Overlawyered.com

37 posted on 04/08/2003 4:05:26 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: Liz
I just want to read it ,(thesis)because I can't ! ;)

That's why I jumped onto your story!

Good Post..!

F_T_D

38 posted on 04/08/2003 4:08:30 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay (occupied)
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To: Liz; PhiKapMom; section9; JohnHuang2
Bill's triangulation (learned from Dick Morris, learned from Saul Alinsky) was simply dialectic, thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

Communists got quite good at three steps forward, two steps back.

Hitlery is such a bitch, she'll never be as successful as Bill.

Bill proved an effective Lucifer, assuming a pleasing shape to enough to get elected to power.

That of course is Alinsky's advice, assume that camouflage, don't eat that ham sandwich in front of the Jewish rally.

Hitlery, being strident, dogmatic, unbending, fails this test at all times.

Hitlery is an it, ultimately defined as an aggressive lesbian per the anecdote of Gennifer Flowers straight from the traitorrapist's mouth (Passion & Betrayal, Emery Dalton, 1995, page 41, and elsewhere).

Thus she's blown through Alinsky's stern counsel to assume enough of the "square to get in the game".

And Hitlery further marginalized itself in the health care fiasco, demanding 99%, rather than compromising with the 30% advised by Alinsky.

The so-called ethical relativism of Alinsky and Hitlery distils to any lie for power.

Bill was a world-class parser, able to keep himself on the technically true side of lying.

Hitlery is continually forced to refuse comment with disdain, feign horror a la Lazio's gambit, or simply limp along with a cane, be it "you know" or "I wasn't involved" or "I'm sadly disappointed" by her obese excrescent brother, e.g.

Oddly enough Sharpton would be her natural ally at this time.

Sharpton is the demagogue most adept at the game, for he announces the emperor is naked, the so-called leaders of the left, from Hitlery to the killer of Kopechne are given a pass from the probing questions he fields.

Hitlery has failed serially to muddy-up and degrade George W. Bush, yet continues with the same attempts to personalize the target.

Hitlery failed to instill the "homeland security is a myth" poison, and is so befuddled for the next attack Simon & Schuster despairs of its book.

Rush Limbuagh has said Hitlery is waiting for a point in the Iraq war to back-date its check.

Hitlery's success relies upon the ability of Democrats to block an effective tax cut plus the ability of Democrats and the Democrat press to degrade the accomplishments of the Iraq campaign.

Democrats plus the UN, France, Germany, Russia, China and the leftist media were not enough to prevent the Iraq campaign, and are not likely to be able to suppress the U.S. economy to their communal advantage.

The barnyard animals who would not help bake the bread will now demand to eat it, and when denied will misrepresent its qualities.

From Hitlery we shall have the "myth of Bush's victory in Iraq"--we expect no less kooky a canard from the adultery denier hallucinating a "vast right-wing conspiracy".

39 posted on 04/08/2003 4:53:50 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Liz
Clintoons were moral degenerates and power hungry to the nth degree. Hope Hitlery never occupies the White House.
40 posted on 04/08/2003 5:01:31 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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