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New guidelines leave educators fuming, worried
The Tennessean ^ | April 6, 2003 | DIANE LONG

Posted on 04/06/2003 7:49:20 AM PDT by sarcasm

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Tomorrow morning, Principal Oliver Smith will gather a group of 25 newly arrived immigrant students at Wright Middle School and tell them, through interpreters, that they have to take the state's annual achievement tests

(Excerpt) Read more at tennessean.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: education; educationnews; esl; esol; nclb

1 posted on 04/06/2003 7:49:20 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
I suppose that the expectation is that we should take every foreigner from God knows where, legal or not, and not only educate them at our expense but also provide teachers for them in their own languages, also at our expense. If they don't like the rules, they can leave. I suspect that better than 90% of them are illegals anyway.
2 posted on 04/06/2003 7:55:30 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sweetliberty
"Cheap" labor.
3 posted on 04/06/2003 7:59:46 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sweetliberty
Whether they are illegal or not, they should learn English.
My Grandparents did.
4 posted on 04/06/2003 8:05:42 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent-Peace through strength)
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To: sarcasm
Gee, I wonder if this will inspire any immigrants to learn English within a YEAR of their arrival. Is that really too much to expect, dear whining teachers? Also, children learn languages quite fast. My adopted nephew went from speaking Russian to English in a matter of WEEKS and he didn't go to language class. He hung out with English speaking people. America is a melting pot, right? How about turning up the heat so the cultures blend a little faster without losing their individual flavors?
5 posted on 04/06/2003 8:06:48 AM PDT by arasina (PRAY for our troops, our president, our journalists, the POWs and the innocents!)
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To: sweetliberty
Well it seems that being a country of populated by immigrants .. this has been the historical case. Those immigrants weren't catered to.. they were required to learn English and go to school. The education system in the US is a failure for all students not just the non-English speaking ones.
6 posted on 04/06/2003 8:06:59 AM PDT by Zipporah
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I absolutely agree that they should have to learn English. The thing that makes me so angry is the fact that the same law which says that the ones that are illegal cannot even be here says that we have to use government funds to educate them in the first place. The idea that we are even having a discussion about whether they should have to learn in the language of THIS country is completely ludicrous in my opinion.
7 posted on 04/06/2003 8:12:03 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sarcasm
Metro Schools Director Pedro Garcia...name says it all.
8 posted on 04/06/2003 8:14:22 AM PDT by RWG
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''It's not best practices to test people in English-only on an assessment that they can't understand,'' she said. ''But it's required, and we really have no leeway.''

Then do it and SHUT UP, government bureaucrat.

9 posted on 04/06/2003 8:17:13 AM PDT by Timesink (When was the last time YOU remembered we're on Code Orange?)
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........Among the 31,895 Metro students in grades 3-8 who must take the tests, 1,796 are in the ESL program........
.........That creates a testing dilemma for parents of students with special needs, including Metro's 5,184 special ed students in grades 3-8.............

22% of the kids are SpecEd or ESL. WOW
10 posted on 04/06/2003 8:45:17 AM PDT by 11x62
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11 posted on 04/06/2003 8:55:52 AM PDT by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: sarcasm
What? English??? How un-Ameri... waitaminut...this IS an English speaking nation. nevermind...carry on.
13 posted on 04/06/2003 9:05:17 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: sarcasm
If they are here legally and want to be citizens, they should be immersed in English and using it exclusively while in school.

If they are illegal aliens they shouldn't be here sucking up tax dollars and educational resources and evading our laws. In that case, they should go back to where they came from. We shouldn't pander to their wants, or the wants of their enablers.

14 posted on 04/06/2003 9:27:04 AM PDT by Gritty
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I live in east Tennessee and the educators are not happy. This is the first i've heard about this particular problem, but a local assisant principal told me how this was so stupid, the Republicans are setting then kids up to fail, we WILL NOT DO this successfully, etc, etc. This is political fight; once again, the venomous NEA has reared it head and is doing everything possible to ensure this law is as onnerous and difficult as they can make it, esp. in media articles like this. Of course, they conveniently forget thier job is turn out GOOD students...
15 posted on 04/06/2003 12:03:15 PM PDT by Amalie
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