Posted on 04/06/2003 5:26:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
Edited on 07/20/2004 11:48:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
You southerners are unfathomable to me. We would never firebomb a mural of Robert Lee up North.
This may come as a shock to you but the confederacy did not enjoy universal devotion from all the people living in it in the 1861-65 time period. Maybe it was one of their decendants?
I would be surprised if there were not any at Gettysburg.
All I can say is that I'm not aware of any.
It is assumed that it is due to the southern unfamiliararity with indoor plumbing.
The war certainly changed the country. Industry boomed. There were soldiers on every street corner. A lot of young men left home for the first time in their lives. Many Southern homes and businesses were destroyed. And many men in both sections were killed and maimed. I'm not sure it adds up to a Second American Revolution, or if it did it was all a bad thing. Slavery was ended, after all. And the ground was laid for greater equality.
It doesn't look to me like Ticknor was talking about an end to the republic and the birth of empire, or some imposition of a new tyranny. Government wasn't that much larger or more powerful in 1870 or 1880 than it was in 1840 or 1850, at least in comparison to what it has become since. What did change in Northern cities is that the older, calmer, more genteel atmosphere became more striving, more driven, more dominated by business and ambition. And a Harvard professor would certainly have noticed this and would probably have objected.
...which would mean, exactly as I noted previously, a yankee sympathizer, as in one who does not sympathize with the south but instead sympathizes with the north. What is so difficult about that concept for you?
All I can say is that I'm not aware of any.
Your own lack of awareness is insufficient in determining whether or not an event happens external to that awareness. Like it or not, there are yankee vandals out there too.
Perhaps in the mind of a yankeeland dweller where nothing but liberalism abounds and where the republicans up there are like our democrats down here, but in reality Virginia is actually one of the more moderate of the southern states when it comes to politics. It leans conservative and generally votes that way, but is no South Carolina or Texas.
A greater likelihood involves the ability of southerners to recognize an appropriate place of relieving oneself, as opposed to any old street corner, inlet, stairwell or allyway, as tends to be the normal place for such activity in the urban murder cesspools of yankeeland.
No, you'd simply make arrangements with some bureaucrat of the federal government to slip in during the middle of the night and remove it out of concern for the remote possibility that it may offend somebody. That tends to be the yankee way these days.
Only because you don't know who he was.
Conservatives dominate the General Assembly. Both Senators are Republican. Eight out of 11 congressmen are Republican. Yes, we have a RAT Governor, but only because the GOP ran a weak candidate last time around.
Unlike Texas and South Carolina, Virginia was the only Southern state not to vote for Jimmy Carter. We have not voted for a RAT for President since LBJ.
That said, what you say has some truth. The conservative nature of the real Virginia is dilluted by the influx if yankee gubmint employees in Northern Virginia.
Jimmy Carter was 28 years ago. As for the rest, it is perfectly fine to note that VA is generally a conservative state. It does not compare to Texas though - believe me, I've lived in both. The character of local laws in each are very indicative, especially in regional jurisdictions. Virginia's automobile and traffic laws, for example, are among the most intrusive and restrictive in the nation (and all those little municipalities around DC in particular absolutely love to stick those "red light" cameras at all their intersection). On the other hand, the gun laws of both states are comparable - both have CCL and, aside from leftist home rule cities in VA, few purchase restrictions exist beyond the standard national ones. Both states do have their respective liberal Democrat ratholes, but in Texas even the big cities are, at most, marginally Democrat.
That said, what you say has some truth. The conservative nature of the real Virginia is dilluted by the influx if yankee gubmint employees in Northern Virginia.
Indeed. What used to be pristine farmland and conservative suburbia is now a Jim Moran D.C. rathole of unionized yankee bureaucrats.
I think it would be most humane of me to merely thank you for your comment.
ML/NJ
But still a southerner. Like I've said before I've given up trying to understand why you southerners do anything. But a similar statue up North probably wouldn't have anything to worry about. Can you say the same about the Lincoln statue in Richmond?
Indeed. And when that happened, while Virginia had a Republican governor, we had four out of 10 congressman (or a similar margin) and the RATS had 75% of both chambers of the General Assembly.
I'd be curious to know where you lived in Virginia. That might 'splain a lot.
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