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'Too-slow' Marine Commander Relieved
News Max ^ | 4-5-03

Posted on 04/05/2003 7:50:46 PM PST by hope

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

'Too-slow' Marine Commander Relieved

NewsMax.com
Sunday, April 6, 2003
"I'm afraid this could mean more casualties," one enlisted man told the L.A. Times embedded reporter, after hearing that Maj. Gen. James Mattis, commander of the 1st Marine Division had relieved and replaced his regimental commander for reportedly being too slow in his drive on Baghdad.

Col. Joe W. Dowdy, who had been commander of the 1st Marine Regiment, was reassigned Friday to another position, being replaced by Col. John Toolan, the 1st Marine Division's operations officer.

Toolan hurried to the front and immediately took charge of a speeded-up drive to Baghdad, quickly ordering more troops and more air power to the front lines. By Saturday morning, the Marine forces were racing north on Highway 6 and had begun to enter the capital.

According to the Times report, enlisted men with the 1st Marines were less than happy with the timing of Dowdy’s ouster. Dowdy, a popular commander was cautious with his troops -- reportedly at the expense of speed.

The Marines had come under heavy fire at the town of Al Kut, where they had run into stiff resistance from the Republican Guard's Baghdad Division. Previously, fighting at several cities along the way, including Umm al Qasr and Nasiriyah, had slowed the Leathernecks.

After the fight at Al Kut, with Dowdy still in command, the Marines drove all night with their headlights on to make better time. The tactic, usually considered an unsafe move, came on the heels of Mattis’s demand for greater speed at a meeting of officers.

Toolan is considered a “close-with-and engage-the-enemy" type of commander who had helped draft the division's battle plan and is a Mattis confidante.

The Marines have been driving toward Baghdad on a parallel course with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which reached the outskirts of Baghdad late Wednesday -- ahead of the Marines.

In the 1991 Gulf War, the Marines trumped the main Army forces and entered Kuwait City first.

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KEYWORDS: command; iraqifreedom; joedowdy; marines; warlist
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1 posted on 04/05/2003 7:50:46 PM PST by hope
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To: hope
I have a hunch there is still more to this story.
2 posted on 04/05/2003 7:52:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: hope
Something tells me there's a lot more to this story that what's reported. A LOT more!
3 posted on 04/05/2003 7:53:02 PM PST by meyer (how do I turn this thing off?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Great minds....
4 posted on 04/05/2003 7:53:42 PM PST by meyer (how do I turn this thing off?)
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To: hope
Any story that uses an LA times reporter as its source is suspect.
5 posted on 04/05/2003 7:55:06 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Any story that uses an LA times reporter as its source is suspect.

Especilly Newsmax.

6 posted on 04/05/2003 7:58:47 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: hope
Next week the leftist media will incessantly harp about how the "stalled and bogged down" advance moved WAAAAY TOO FAST!
7 posted on 04/05/2003 8:00:20 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: Paleo Conservative
Exactly. This story should be judged just like the "quagmire" stories of a few days ago. The liberal press has no credibility at all in its war coverage. Or its coverage of anything else, for that matter.
8 posted on 04/05/2003 8:00:37 PM PST by speedy
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To: hope
I personally thought the Marine advance was a bit slow. Granted I am not there but...we [Marines] had a shorter route to Baghdad than the US Army did...nevertheless, they [Army] got there first.

Could be alot of factors involved but it looks like a dirt slow commander was one of them. The article reads like a contrarian/anti-neocon/Hackworth-type trying to kick up dirt.
9 posted on 04/05/2003 8:04:29 PM PST by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: hope
"the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which reached the outskirts of Baghdad late Wednesday -- ahead of the Marines."
Go Rock of the Marne!
10 posted on 04/05/2003 8:06:37 PM PST by Elkhound4
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To: hope
LA TIMES. We've got a consensus here. Let's close this thread.
11 posted on 04/05/2003 8:06:47 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: hope
Shades of Patton's "we're going to beat Montgomery to Messina."
12 posted on 04/05/2003 8:06:59 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: hope; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; sakka; MadIvan; ...
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
13 posted on 04/05/2003 8:07:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: EternalVigilance
I have a hunch there is still more to this story.

I agree. Just thinking but there are a lot of officers that never wanted to buy into the "new" military BUT regardless, this Col. does not have the big picture - maybe his slowness would cost untold lives if he did fulfil his mission on time. In this "new" military, speed and timeliness are of utmost importance. When you get the call to go, you say "yes sir" as you are moving out.

14 posted on 04/05/2003 8:09:15 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: hope
Something as serious as this coming from newsmax in small caps .
15 posted on 04/05/2003 8:09:31 PM PST by Ben Bolt (Whatever ..)
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To: EternalVigilance
Yup . . . waiting for the paulharvery . . .
16 posted on 04/05/2003 8:12:10 PM PST by fightinJAG
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To: VaBthang4
Yeah .. you are not . Blah gog blah . The article is 3 rd party and your reply is even deeper .
17 posted on 04/05/2003 8:15:03 PM PST by Ben Bolt (Whatever ..)
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To: cinFLA
The Times - newspaper of liars. Nuff said.
18 posted on 04/05/2003 8:20:30 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: thatdewd
So will people who reply here and FReepers also . People take time and newsmax serious . I dont get it .
19 posted on 04/05/2003 8:20:31 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: hope
I'm afraid this could mean more casualties," one enlisted man told the L.A. Times embedded reporter,...

I've a hunch this reporter walked around for awhile, trying to get a quote like this. Who knows what the guy really said.

Sort of like Gen. William Wallace's supposed comment that "the enemy we're fighting isn't the one we wargamed against." The quote was out of context; that isn't what he said at all.

20 posted on 04/05/2003 8:20:39 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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