Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) could replace UN: Indonesian VP

Xinhua via COMTEX ^ | 4-5-03

[Oldeconomybuyer]

JAKARTA, Apr 5, 2003 (Xinhua via COMTEX) -- Indonesian Vice President Hamzah Haz stated that the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) could be further developed to replace the United Nations (UN), since it has failed to keep the United States from waging war against Iraq, the national news agency Antara reported here Saturday.

The United Nations "has failed to tackle the crisis in Iraq," noted Hamzah, who is also chairman of this country's largest political party, the United Development Party (PPP), during a meeting with his party's youth wing.

He pointed out that the United Nations can no longer be trusted to handle the crisis in Iraq and even in the Middle East.

Under the circumstance, he said, the NAM, with a membership of over 100 countries, should play an important role in finding a solution to the humanitarian crisis worldwide, especially in Iraq, so that in the long run, the organization deserves the right to replace the United Nations.

The vice president also expressed his deep regret over the US arrogance in attacking Iraq in the name of democracy. Waging a military assault on Iraq does not show democracy but cruel authoritarianism, he stressed.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Even Kofi's communist pals are turning on him.

[xrp]

Heck, the UN even failed to prevent France from using military forces in incursions about 30 times since the UN's inception. Oddly enough, France never asked for UN approval and it acted unilaterally!

I wonder if NAM, if it comes to fruition, would be what George Washington saw in his 'Son of the Republic, look and learn' vision?

[Green Knight]

George Washington's what?

[the_Watchman]

Few of us at FR have any kind words for the U.N. Most of us have stated that we would like to see it ejected from U.S. soil.

However, it is worth noting that the U.N. does serve some purpose. Note that these loonies have been unable to organize for a counterattack. They are clearly unable to push a binding resolution through the U.N. which would commit troops to oppose the U.S. We would simply veto such a resolution. If they had their own organization they might be able to cobble something together by way of a global military force.

Folks, let's face it. We are outnumbered. We don't really want the forces of evil to have their own organization. In the long run, it may be better to keep them affiliated with us and subject to our veto!

If our veto power were ever rescinded at the U.N. it would be a whole new ballgame.

[tet68]

, so that in the long run, the organization deserves the right to replace the United Nations.

Why? Are two failed institutions better than one?

Loosners~!

[Joe Bonforte]

So he wants to replace the UN with the only international club more corrupt than the UN. Figures.

[xrp]

George Washington's Vision

[mewzilla]

Just as long as they don't do it HERE.

[freekitty]

WHY DO WE NEED TO REPLACE THE UN?

[agincourt1415]

Some of these THIRD WORLD LEADERS are sooo CLUELESS.

Most the world is stupid and ILLOGICAL.

[Green Knight]

Is that for real? Honestly brought a tear to my eye. But I don't want to buy into something that might be nothing more than folklore.

[SnarlinCubBear]

Ping

[xrp]

It is also listed at a website about Valley Forge:

http://www.ushistory.org/valleyforge/washington/vision.html

I guess it is one of those things like Betsy Ross sewing the first American flag. There are credible stories regarding this, but no solid proof. At that point, you have to go on faith.

The first and second parts of the vision are widely assumed to mean the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, respectively, with no clear indication what the third part of the vision may have been.

[Green Knight]

At least it isn't one of those internet rumours.

As for the third part, it obviously hasn't happened, as there hasn't been a situation in which America was invaded and nearly defeated. If this is true, though, it gives one hope that despite it all, whatever the hardships to come, we'll survive them and grow stronger as a result.

[Wonder Warthog]

"We don't really want the forces of evil to have their own organization. In the long run, it may be better to keep them affiliated with us and subject to our veto!"

The forces of evil DID have their own organization(s). The Warsaw Pact and the global communist movement--both no longer significant threats. Let'em HAVE their "non-aligned movement" organization.

Then WE should start a "Union of Democracies".

[xrp]

“Remember ye are brethren.”

[xrp]

Democracy sucks.

[Batrachian]

"...the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) could be further developed to replace the United Nations (UN), since it has failed to keep the United States from waging war against Iraq."

Honesty is so refreshing. They admit what everyone already knows. The purpose of the U.N. is to thwart the U.S.

I wish our own leaders would admit this and act accordingly, i.e., pass a resolution officially declaring the U.N. irrelevent, or something like that. If there's one thing the Kofi Annans of the world hate it's being irrelevent.

[Jabba the Nutt]

Oh, goodie, even the third worlders are giving up on the UN. This ought to be encourage. Let the 190 countries set up their bureaucracy in Kuala Lampur or Jakarta. That's a terrific idea. And keep all the major countries out of it. Then, have all these guys withdraw from the UN and then we can shut it down for lack of a quorum. Goodie, goodie!

[Joe Bonforte]

WHY DO WE NEED TO REPLACE THE UN?

I don't think I understand your question. "WE" don't need to do squat. The UN has shown itself to be nothing more than a vehicle for the rest of the world to try to get the US to do things against our own self-interest. It has also shown itself to be corrupt, totally ineffective, and poorly structured for a post-Soviet world.

Our choices are (1) allow it to continue just so Villepin and his ilk can have a place to vent their blather, which makes them feel better and doesn't really hurt us, or (2) decide we don't want to pay the money for this nonsense and withdraw, also forcing the UN to move out of NY.

I prefer #2, but it's really not important enough to get excited about. The UN is now irrelevant to geo-political realities.