State Bars Christian Prayer

2003 WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[nmh]

Considering the times that we live in this should not be surprising. It's prophecy at work and intolerance from the Jews:

Matt.10:22

[22] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mark.13:13

[13] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Luke.1:71

[71] That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

Luke.6:22

[22] Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Luke.2117

[17] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

John.7:7

[7] The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

John.15:18, 23-25

[18] If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

[23] He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

[24] If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

[25] But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

It's also no surprise that leftist claim Christianity and twist Scripture to echo their humanistic teachings:

2Tim.4:3

[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

As they do this, they deny Him and this is what His action will be when denying His teachings:

Matt.10:33

[33] But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

2Tim.2:12

[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

[nmh]

Isn't it odd that these same "Jewish lawmakers" do NOT object to when ALL Presidents swear in to office placing their hand on the Bible which contains the Old and NEW Testament?

Just goes to show how hateful these "Jewish lawmakers" are. Just as in the Bible they are as disobedient as ever.

[Just mythoughts]

This is a "free" nation that was based upon Christian principles.

Within that document it clearly states that government cannot establish a religion.

For "lawmaker" to think that they have the power to tell a "free" person how to pray, no matter what religion the "lawmaker" is then something has gotten turned upside down.

There is no way that the opposite situation could occur and there not be the hue and cry of anti-semitism.

Somebody in that legislature has gotten a bit to brazen to think that as a lawmaker they can tell anyone what is an acceptable prayer. It is far worse than "censorship" for any lawmaker to tell someone how and what is acceptable in a prayer.

Would you stand for someone, anyone telling you who to and how to pray? I think not.

[PFKEY]

What I don't understand is why it is important that there be some sort of prayer in these assemblies?

Where is it in the Bible that says a Christian should pray amoung unbelievers?

What does the Bible say about public prayers?

Sorry, I don't see the problem. I wouoldn't want someone to offer a prayer to Allah or the wind spirit or whoever. This all seems rather silly and pointless.

[Kuksool]

{Isn't it odd that these same "Jewish lawmakers" do NOT object to when ALL Presidents swear in to office placing their hand on the Bible which contains the Old and NEW Testament?}

Liberals have not thought of objecting to the practice yet.

[mvpel]

E-CU-MEN-I-CAL.

If I asked someone to offer an ecumenical invocation, and they refused to do so, then I don't think it amounts to "telling them how to pray" to decline to invite them to offer the invocation.

[Just mythoughts]

Upon whose authority does a "lawmaker" have to determine what E-CU-MEN-I-CAL means?

Who does that State House belong to?

Who pays their salaries?

The very idea that an elected government official takes upon themselves what "ecumenical invocation" means and what words are appropriate to say, is government establishing a religion.

Christians have been taught too long to turn the other cheek, and ignore what is Written. This country has been hit with the broadside of unbelievers demanding to removed the very foundation that made and keeps this country the most blessed nation in recorded history.

Christians are not second class citizens. Enough is enough.

So an "offer" was made and when he refused to follow directions, then an "invitation" to decline the offer.

You are whitewashing what took place. If the same situation happend to you, would you follow the directions of what was appropriate to say?

[mvpel]

Christians are not second class citizens. Enough is enough.

But Jews are, apparently. Don't worry too much, we're used to it.

[Hacksaw]

The minister was wrong and he should apologize.

Nope.

[Just mythoughts]

Actually in this day and age it is the Christians who are required to take the back seat. The "left" socialists, media, Hollywood, ever hear the words "right wing extremists" so commonly use thorough out the 90's.

It was not a Rabbi that was told what words were acceptable to pray. The article states they were not given any requirements as to what could be said.

If this had been done to a Rabbi I would have the same position. "LAWMAKERS" have no authority to tell anyone what is an appropriate prayer.

Because I am a Christian and we live in a "FREE" country each individual has the right to practice their religion. It is because of my respect for that right and know that if it is not protected none of us will retain it.

The Christian community as a whole in this nation has the highest level of support for Jews anywhere in the world and no one can claim that Christians as a whole treat Jews as second class citizens.

We are continually told that government is to be Christian free, and based upon your words, sounds like you agree.