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[Pearl Jam] Concert-goers jam exits after anti-Bush display
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 040303 | Mark Brown

Posted on 04/03/2003 8:09:24 AM PST by dep

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To: Phantom Lord
"If an "artist" promotes their politics in their 'free time' thats one thing, but as GA Rob said, when it becomes part of their performance thats a different story. "

Sorry, but it has to go a step further than that because art at its core is a medium of communication. Though skills across various crafts and technologies, art empowers its creator to promotes a message and evoke a public reaction. That's the essence of art.

Recognizing that, it's the artist's responsibility to restrict using the notoriety and fame from one "message" to communicate another if he wants the two to be viewed independently. An artist promoting his politics while being interviewed for his music, is like an Islamic cleric promoting jihad while addressing his congregation (or whatever it's called in Islam). Just as the cleric can't shield criticism of his church behind a freedom of religion ideal, the artist can't shield criticism of his performances behind a "separate the artist from the art" ideal. That's because the two are too closely related. There's not clear distinction from the expression of values and the promotion of values.

Every artist (and cleric) of course has a right to espouse his personal views. But it's his responsibility to exercise desecration in their promotion if the wants to keep the independence of his art. He must strive to not mix the promotion of one with the other. He must not use public appearances that are made possible only by his art to promote his politics. It's of course inevitable that people will place greater weight on is private opinions due to his fame, and that's fine, but it's his responsibility to resist temptation and refrain from publicly expressing his politics if he wants to protect his art from opposition to it.

61 posted on 04/03/2003 10:06:07 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Travis McGee
You're too kind. Slingshots and .50 caliber lead balls.
62 posted on 04/03/2003 10:06:41 AM PST by wardaddy (G-d speed our fighters!)
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To: ottersnot
That's my plan....thanks!! I am not going to throw away $90 just to make some statement, the band already has my money. Plus this will be the last concert for quite along while...new baby June 5, after that....any money that would be spent on a concert can go in the college fund.
63 posted on 04/03/2003 10:07:04 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: dep
What do you expect from a band with an X-rated moniker?
64 posted on 04/03/2003 10:08:34 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: dep
"Did someone just say, 'Shut up'? I don't know if you heard about this thing called freedom of speech, man. It's worth thinking about it, because it's going away," Vedder said.

LOL. You know, I just went 10 rounds with some Pearl Jam fan on usenet who said the exact same thing. Do you have to be a liberal or just have a teenager's mindset to think that someone responding to your free speech with someo of his own = suppression of freedom of speech?
65 posted on 04/03/2003 10:09:58 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: shhrubbery!
The name comes from Ed's Great Grandmother Pearl. She had a recipe for jam that would make people hallucinate. Hence, Pearl's Jam.
66 posted on 04/03/2003 10:09:59 AM PST by College Repub (http://www.collegehumor.com)
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To: =Intervention=
But that is sorta my point. I do not care what they do...drugs, have sex with animals, vote DEM or GREEN. I enjoy music for the sheer enjoyment. I have seen over 500 concerts in my life, starting with Bob Dylan when I was 4(long story).

I guess it goes back to my raising by my GranPa(RIP). He always taught me to be your own man, don't let other people define who you are. I never identify with the artists really....I just love the music, any music, that's me.
67 posted on 04/03/2003 10:12:41 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
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To: Ga Rob
Part of music is the lyrics. The lyrics reveal what the artist thinks is important. That's the reason why I don't go to see some bands, while other bands, I do. I find it difficult to enjoy a band that's promulgating a message that's B.s.

-=I=-
68 posted on 04/03/2003 10:17:20 AM PST by =Intervention= (so freaking sick of the lies...)
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To: elfman2
These fools misunderstand their "Free Speach Rights.

They are protected, only, from Government Reaction.
Yet they expect "a polite audience", and undying loyalty from everyone. They want the Constitution to protect them from Public Opinion & from their own foolish excesses.
69 posted on 04/03/2003 10:18:49 AM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: dep
Freep their message board, they moved it...


http://forums.sonymusic.com/forum.jsp?forum=489&code=smobbs
70 posted on 04/03/2003 10:25:56 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: DoctorMichael
I think you're being a bit too mysterious for the liberal lurkers around here. The subtle nuances of your post may be lost on their intellectual capacities. Please do try to communicate your feelings more clearly in the future. ;^)
71 posted on 04/03/2003 10:27:39 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: College Repub
The name comes from Ed's Great Grandmother Pearl. She had a recipe for jam that would make people hallucinate. Hence, Pearl's Jam.

Cute cover story. Don't tell me you believe it.

72 posted on 04/03/2003 10:28:29 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: dep
Vedder, good for you, you exercised your First Amendment rights and your audience/CD purchasers will now exercise their right to stop putting money in your pocket.
73 posted on 04/03/2003 10:29:56 AM PST by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: shhrubbery!
It's true.
74 posted on 04/03/2003 10:32:38 AM PST by College Repub (http://www.collegehumor.com)
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To: wardaddy
Jefferson Airplane do Volunteers...........

I met the Airplane's lead guitarist, Jorma Kaukenen and spent a lot of time with him several years ago. He's a really great guy. He seems quite conservative and is a proud American. He raises the US flag every morning at his guitar camp and keeps a calendar of US military victories: "Ahh...this is the anniversary of (some such Revolutionary War battle). On this day 198 years ago, we kicked the Brits' a$$...."

I also understand he has a pretty decent gun collection.

75 posted on 04/03/2003 10:39:22 AM PST by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: dep
Pearl Jam is still around? I thought they disappeared after Vedder's grammy "speech" when he said, "This award means nothing to me. It would've meant something to my dad but he's dead" then wallked off stage.

What a class act he is.

76 posted on 04/03/2003 10:40:22 AM PST by al_c
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To: thefactor
PJ Ping...
77 posted on 04/03/2003 10:41:15 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: God luvs America
pearl jam=semen

The semen luvers at the message board are daring anyone to come "troll" on the holy ground of their god pearljam as they worshhip them

78 posted on 04/03/2003 10:55:53 AM PST by Gasshog (eyes open, mouth too! tough!)
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To: Skooz
That's nice to hear. I always liked his licks...especially when he and Cassady went off to Hot Tuna as well. That grungy metal album they did...yellow cover??....nice.

Regards.
79 posted on 04/03/2003 10:58:11 AM PST by wardaddy (G-d speed our fighters!)
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To: Pharmboy
...this is what was interesting about Pearl Jam's venture into radio. In between cuts, a male monotone voice oozing vulgar Marxism droned on about manipulation of the media, the evils of corporations, and the sins of America generally. The recorded voice belonged to Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor Noam Chomsky, the linguistic theorist and hard-core leftist whose career has bizarrely branched into the music business....is now working on an album that combines Chomsky readings with original music by REM, Pearl Jam, and other groups.
-Heterodoxy, March, 1996.

80 posted on 04/03/2003 11:04:41 AM PST by Ranier Wolfcastle
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