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To: eno_; Cultural Jihad; Kevin Curry; Roscoe; fortheDeclaration
the government has NO BUSINESS coming into our homes to enforce anything.

So if you want to have sex with a goat/kid/deadbody it is okay, as long as it is in your home?

How about 20 wives?

How about a slave?

Murder?

Rape?

Libertarian scum, and I do mean SCUM, are just as bad as democrats and greens. Libertarians want license to do what ever perversion that they think is right in there own eyes. They come on a CONSERVATIVE Message board when there message has much more in common with the SCUM at DU.

A nation cannot function without morality. Because man is a depraved creature, he cannot be permitted to define morality. Morality can only be Defined by Almighty God.

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

"The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty." John Adams

"Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. John Adams

"Man, considered as a creature, must necessarily be subject to the laws of his Creator, for he is entirely a dependent being....And, consequently, as man depends absolutely upon his Maker for everything, it is necessary that he should in all points conform to his Maker's will...this will of his Maker is called the law of nature. These laws laid down by God are the eternal immutable laws of good and evil...This law of nature dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this... Sir William Blackstone

I will take Adams and Blackstone over any pot smoke 1960's radical libertarian hippie anyday.

At the Founding of our nation, EVERY STATE, EVERY SINGLE STATE Banned Sodomy. MOST States Punished it as a CAPITAL CRIME, those that didn't punished it with lenghty prison sentences.

In fact in 1868 Every State had a law banning Sodomy. It wasn't until the hippies of the 1960's and their Dope/Rock/Sex ideology that a movement began to remove sodomy laws and embrace all sorts of sexual perversion.

What you have in essence, is libertarians spitting on the founders and embracing pot smoking, draft dodging, sexual perverts as their leaders.

If the Supreme Court Overturns the sodomy laws, it will start the long slide down the slippery slope that cannot be stopped. Soon there will be libertarians/sodomites/democrats claiming a right to sex with kids, multiple wives, sex with goats, sex with dead people ect... Libertarians right now say "NO! I would never endorse those sorts of things!" However with no objective morality, their moral fabric will soon be chipped away to accepting those things as normal, because it "feels good".

There is already a new movement to lower the age of consent and embrace and allow sex with minors.

Thomas Jefferson said: "Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and His justice cannot sleep forever."

If These Libertarian scum get their way, I will pray for God's Justice to come swiftly.

8 posted on 04/03/2003 2:46:12 AM PST by FF578 (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and His justice cannot sleep forever)
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To: FF578
Thanks for the usual tiresome deliberate inability to distinguish between civil liberties and moral rights. Should we legislate that every man must go to church on Sundays? (England used to.) Is that not a morally right thing for him to do?
9 posted on 04/03/2003 2:56:54 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: FF578
If These Libertarian scum get their way, I will pray for God's Justice to come swiftly.

Whose god, Allah? You sound just like the Taliban.

Marriage (20 wives) is something for which the state has interest. So is slavery and murder. The government needs to keep out of our personal lives. I don't understand why freedom-loving Americans can't see this.

I don't believe in your God, and he has no authority over my life. If you try to force me to worship him, or live by his book, you will fail.

Remember, we came to this country to avoid religious persecution. Scalia is wrong, and I hope his opinion is overruled by the rest of the court.

10 posted on 04/03/2003 3:07:48 AM PST by risk
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To: FF578
They hate Scalia because they hate the law.
16 posted on 04/03/2003 9:04:32 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: FF578
The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue

That was John Adams but it could well have been Kung Fu Tze. Virtue in governance is not a Christian, or even a religious concept. Confucianism is less a religion than a management philosophy, in that it has no dogma.

How odd that people seek to make men less free in the name of God. I guess these are the same Drug Warriors that cannot name a single unenumerated right, never mind understanding the source of those rights. They understand neither God nor the Constitution.

21 posted on 04/03/2003 9:55:03 AM PST by eno_
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To: FF578
Dead bodies have rights and so do kids and so do animals. None can grant consent. The state has the power to sanction contracts. Marriage is such a contract. The state can decide gay people can't marry. They can decide that people can't have more than one wife. Slavery is illegal, but even if it weren't, an idiot could see that an adult person has the right to independence and the right to grant consent. Murder and rape are both crimes which take away someone else's rights. That's why the government can punish offenders.
41 posted on 04/04/2003 12:28:48 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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