POW Jessica was tortured

New York Daily News ^ | 4/03/02 | MAKI BECKER

[Chancellor Palpatine]

One of the problems of having females so close to combat is that our enemies see it as a sign of weakness. </>

Symbolically, its a glorious picture to present to the Islamofascists. Here is a little bitty thing, a cutie, that gave battle bravely as a warrior, took a lot of punishment, and survived. How humiliating is that the the Iraqi military? Did that put some chinks in the theology of Islamofascism, if after all their heartfelt supplications to Allah they got beaten so severely by armies that used teenaged girls as warriors?

[conservababeJen]

In case you don't get it, a "Militant Pro-lifer" IMO (am I allowed to have one of those?) is a Talibornagain trying to establish Amerighanistan. "Eric Rudolph" ring a bell?

seek help

[conservababeJen]

At this very early stage it could prevent pregnancy before there is even an identifiable gestational sac

Which happens at 6 to 10 days, so at 2 weeks (14 days) it's too late.
eh?

[TankerKC]

I guess when you hit that 1 year mark you can start calling people "newbie" and become a tattle tale...or did you start before that?

[Hildy]

What a hero. And let's not forget about that Iraqi guy who risked his life in order to have the Americans save her. Let's bring him here or MAKE SURE HE'S FREE.

[KC Burke]

The military should be aware of the specifics of her captivity, if for no other reason than to prepare charges for the captors and to prepare to treat other captives.

However, the discussion of the specifics or consequences of her torture or mistreatment plays into the hands of her captors. That is because the reason for her torture or mistreatment by this type of regime is not to actually extract information as some imply. They know there is little to gain from a PFC truck driver of a support unit.

The torture is instead to degrade, dehumanize and and inspire fear in the captive as well as those that person is close to and their entire universe of supporters. The torture of women is often meant to take from them their self-respect and public discussion of specifics facilitates that sort of broken thinking.

The media is a lurid vampire and wouldn't be satisfied with a blunt fact but would instead, feed at thier own bite until they have the most lurid details. I hope she is counciled to say little herself and to let her comrades shine their look of scorn on those living off of such information.

[SarahW]

No. You can't presume she conceived instantaneously upon capture.

Conception typically doesn't happen the moment you have sex. In fact, it can take days from sexual contact for actual conception to occur, not even addressing the fact She might have ovulated days after capture.

It COULD prevent pregancy prior to there being an identifiable gestation sac.

But even if implantation were BEGUN, that is not the same thing as completed. These drugs do interefere with implantation.

[this_ol_patriot]

It boils down to this. No woman should ever have to go through an ordeal like this. No woman should ever have to endure the aftermath of an ordeal like this.

No God-fearing country should ever send women or children into battle under any circumstances. That is the greatest respect we can give to the spiritual giver-of-life and nurturer of our children. May God bless her and make the rest of her life free from turmoil.

This is all I have to say about this and all I am going to say.

[conservababeJen]

You can't presume she conceived instantaneously upon capture.

For the baby's sake, you can't presume she DIDN'T. If she DID, you'll then have a dead or deformed baby.

[far sider]

I guess when you hit that 1 year mark you can start calling people "newbie" and become a tattle tale...or did you start before that?

1. What's your definition of a tattle tale?
2. How long do I have to "be here" to use "newbie"? I didn't know there was a rule.
3. "unaffiliated1" said that there is something shameful about a woman carrying a baby to term if she is raped, and anyone who thought she shouldn't have an abortion is a "militant pro-lifer" like "Eric Rudolph." S/He got under my skin. I thought the moderator might like to check and see if "unaffiliated1" was disrupting, so I pinged him. (Can I say "ping"?) If I'm wrong about the poster, fine. By all means, if you have any other etiquette lessons,let me know.

[Not just another dumb blonde]

I agree. Life is very sacred. If she's been violated and impregnated, she'll have a heavy burden to bear. I watched a talkshow many years ago. The guest on that show was a woman who had been brutally raped and as a result became pregnant. She chose not to have an abortion because of her views on life. Her son (from that rape), was on the show also. She said her son was the biggest blessing in her life. So you see, God can take a worst case scenario and put it to good use. She was so glad she didn't have an abortion. I believe everything in our lives happen for a reason and that they're to build our character. Who are we to wonder why God lets things happen that we deem detrimental to our well-being? It's not a babys' fault.

[No Dems 2004]

I agree. It's not that women would show cowardice, or anything like that (for instance, this girl was very brave). But, I think that these women's lives are open to much more lasting damage (through rape, etc) than would a man's life. I read how the Iraqis treated the British and US POWs during the Gulf War, and it wasn't pretty. I think that women should leave this sort of grisly stuff to them men.

Women have no need to prove something here. We already know how important they are.

[TheRightGuy]

May God bless the one that notified the reporter about her.

Thank god the reporter notified was not Peter Arnett.

[far sider]

You flagged to an Admin Moderator for having an opinion that differed somewhat from yours? We both agree that abortion is wrong.For someone who thinks abortion is wrong, you certainly seem to be promoting it.

Hoping to get me banned? Not necessarily.

What, the Inquisition returns?Inquisition? You sure sound like a lib to me.

Then implied I am a twisted troll? You've defined for me what constitutes a "militant" pro-lifer, simply by your reply. So according to you anyone who thinks abortion is wrong and that an unborm child is innocent is a militant "Talibornagain trying to establish Amerighanistan" like "Eric Rudolph." You have not convinced me my opinion of you is mistaken.

[SarahW]

I disagree.

[Lord_Baltar]

For those that tried to claim "America's Little Sister" wasn't a hero, here's one more reason to say Yes, she is.

Get Well Jessica, we're Praying for you!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Here's one thread where they live.