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To: hove
Why is it SO difficult for you hyperventaliting scardy-cats to realize that SARS has , indeed , been around for many months and has NOT speard all that much, and has NOT killed all that many people. Past pandemics, without the aid of planes, spread far faster and far wider than SARS has !

Yes, I know, facts don't matter to you guys; you just enjoy wqorrying yourself and as many others as you can gull, into mass hysteria. ; ^ )

30 posted on 04/02/2003 10:32:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
This thing has been out in the public since November of 2002. It's way overrated. As you put it: "Past pandemics, without the aid of planes, spread far faster and far wider than SARS has !"

My biggest question for this whole outbreak is: Why couldn't they pick a better name for the disease? Hoof and mouth disease, Legionaire's disease, Whooping Cough, Chicken Pox, and SARS... Maybe something like Metropole pneumonia. Anyone have other suggestions?

32 posted on 04/02/2003 10:51:13 PM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: nopardons; bonesmccoy; per loin; CathyRyan; EternalHope; Dog Gone; blam; Domestic Church; ...
"Why is it SO difficult for you hyperventaliting scardy-cats to realize that SARS has , indeed , been around for many months and has NOT speard all that much, and has NOT killed all that many people. Past pandemics, without the aid of planes, spread far faster and far wider than SARS has !"

From what I have read the truth is somewhere between the position you seem to be taking and the proposition that the sky is falling. My ealier post in this thread [#3] pointed out that some discharges were occuring.

Secondly, before you conclude that only a few people are dead because this has been around for months remember the PRC has under reported, engaged in news black outs and generally lied about what is going on inside the PRC. Until independently verified, assume that any reported data from that source is at best suspect.

Until this got to Hong Kong it was simply not in a population that was regularly jumping on aircraft and traveling around the world. As soon as these conditions obtained, [a little more than a month ago] the disease started to show up in other countries.

Distribution of cases is very odd and appears to indicate that certain people / or certain conditions result in a high likelihood of spreading the disease. This is true of all contagious diseases to some extent but in this case the clusters appear to be a big part of the story. The PRC doctor / professor who was the apparent source of the infection in Hong Kong. The patient in Hanoi who infected more than 50 percent of the health care workers who came in contact with him. The elderly lady and her son who appear to be the focus of the Toronto cluster of infection. The Amoy Gardens cluster which appears to be related to a couple of visits by one infected individual.

Additionaly, the number of infections seen in travelers who have merely spent a few days in Hong Kong [versus the million who live there] appears to be significant. It could also be the total number of contacts, but Hong Kong as a whole is jam packed with people so it seems to me that the epidemiologists have sometime to work with here. Some transmission has occurred on planes, but most appeared to have occurred in Hong Kong.

From all of this I do not think that it is prudent to reach conclusions about the potential for transmission. It is simply too early and until we know for certain it is reasonable to assume that there is a real risk.

In any event, this is a nasty bug and a something north of 10 percent of those hospitalized in Hong Kong have required artificial ventilation. If they had not gotten this level of care would some of these have survived? Probably but a lot would not have.

Panic? No. Dismiss as trivial? Hardly.

43 posted on 04/03/2003 5:21:00 AM PST by R W Reactionairy
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To: nopardons
Last time I checked, two hospitals were closed in Toronto, due to quarantines, and health care workers at a third have just come down with SARS.

I think the internet gives us the ability to see this disease outbreak as never before. It's just as contagious as other diseases which turned into pandemics, and far more lethal.
47 posted on 04/03/2003 5:56:57 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Support the coalition! Buy goods made by our allies.)
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To: nopardons
"Why is it SO difficult for you hyperventaliting scardy-cats"

Maybe it's because my 10 year old nearly died last fall. She had atypical pneumonia.
54 posted on 04/03/2003 7:14:12 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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