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'We didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee' (former Soviet gens prepared Iraq army for war vs. U.S.)
Gazeta.ru ^ | 4/3/03 | Alexander Kornilov

Posted on 04/02/2003 3:34:19 PM PST by Heartlander2

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To: skeeter
ROTFLMAO!!!!
21 posted on 04/02/2003 4:05:52 PM PST by PlanoMike
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To: Heartlander2
Hope they told Saddamthat he had to rename BAGDAD

SADDAMOGRAD
22 posted on 04/02/2003 4:09:48 PM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: Heartlander2
I agree that these Russkies look like they haven't done a thing for Saddam, but this Achalov character really is a bad dude. Do a Google on him if you don't believe me. He's been in bed with creeps like Lebed, and he was part of the repression in the Baltics back in '91.
23 posted on 04/02/2003 4:14:15 PM PST by TheEditor
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To: Heartlander2
Were these Generals active during the Afghanistan defeat?
I'm not really impressed with the Russian Military, especially, the officers. Chechena regularily gives them a fit. I wouldn't lose much sleep over these morons involvement in Iraqi military training/advising.
24 posted on 04/02/2003 4:19:17 PM PST by rstevens
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To: doug from upland
Sheryl? Please, I'm having dinner!
26 posted on 04/02/2003 4:23:41 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (To smash the ugly face of Socialism is our mission)
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To: Heartlander2
If I were Saddam I'd get my money back
27 posted on 04/02/2003 4:29:29 PM PST by paul51
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To: ruready4eternity
Retired Gernerals just like the one's CNN has each nite,

Actually not quite the same. These were cashiered for attempting to overthrow their goverment. The Soviet government, not just the Russian one. Gorby wasn't "hard line" enough for them. These were Soviet Generals but where kicked out before they could becom Russian ones.

28 posted on 04/02/2003 4:39:49 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Heartlander2
Interesting?? Didn't the Russians get the poop beat out of them in Iraq ...?? If so ... should we really be concerned? I haven't seen any military strategy so far which seems alarming. Are the Russians saving some strategy for a last stand ...??
29 posted on 04/02/2003 5:01:57 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Heartlander2
The question is whether they scammed Saddam, or is there military assistance worthless?
30 posted on 04/02/2003 5:02:59 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: clintonh8r
Memo to Iraqi Military Planners: Next time, use the French and save yourselves a lot of grief.

This gets the award for the day! Thanks!

31 posted on 04/02/2003 5:45:55 PM PST by GingisK
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To: belmont_mark; Askel5
PING!
32 posted on 04/02/2003 5:47:12 PM PST by Orion78 (Free Tibet! Free Iraq! Just be sure to watch your back!)
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To: Orion78
yeah, Col.-Gen. Vladimir Achalov and Col.-Gen. Igor Maltsev those russian battle strategies really work...............don't they ? good thing you got the message loud & clear from that " actor " Ronald Reagan !
33 posted on 04/02/2003 6:18:51 PM PST by 1poedpatriot
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To: gitmo
yeah I was thinkin the other day I should have come up with a radio shack " GPS guided bomb scrambler ",.........could have made a nice buck from the iraqi's !
34 posted on 04/02/2003 6:22:04 PM PST by 1poedpatriot
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To: Heartlander2
I hope they weren't "delivering" something for a "last ditch" threat...like a suitcase nuke.
35 posted on 04/02/2003 6:23:28 PM PST by demsux
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To: 1poedpatriot
yeah, Col.-Gen. Vladimir Achalov and Col.-Gen. Igor Maltsev those russian battle strategies really work...............don't they?

The issue here is that the Ruskies are helping Iraq. It doesn't matter if their strategies are any good or not.

Good thing you got the message loud & clear from that " actor " Ronald Reagan!

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Perhaps you can elaborate.

36 posted on 04/02/2003 6:27:16 PM PST by Orion78 (Free Tibet! Free Iraq! Just be sure to watch your back!)
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To: demsux
not with this president and current military !
37 posted on 04/02/2003 6:27:56 PM PST by 1poedpatriot
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To: demsux
Vladamir: "We are going to destroy the United States with 20 Suitcase Nukes."

Iganov: "My God Vladamir! Where are we going to get 20 Suitcases?"

38 posted on 04/02/2003 6:29:26 PM PST by Orion78 (Free Tibet! Free Iraq! Just be sure to watch your back!)
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To: Heartlander2; belmont_mark; Askel5
. . . AND TATARSTAN. Thirty-six candidates running in five single-seat districts have been registered in Tatarstan, Segodnya reported on 4 November. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the Communists-Working Russia-For the Soviet Union worked together to register nominees in all five districts. Additionally, the hard-line Communist Sazhi Umalatova and the current chairman of the All-Russian Officers Assembly, Col. Gen. (ret.) Vladimir Achalov are running for seats in the republic. Yabloko and the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) have three candidates each. Tatarstan boycotted the 1993 elections. In the subsequent March 1994 by-elections, Russia's Choice and LDPR each won 22% of the party-list vote; the Communist got 9% of the vote. Three of the five single-mandate deputies elected in 1994 were from Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Shakhrai's Party of Russian Unity and Concord. -- Anna Paretskaya
39 posted on 04/02/2003 6:42:29 PM PST by Orion78 (Free Tibet! Free Iraq! Just be sure to watch your back!)
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To: 1poedpatriot; belmont_mark
Russia ( March 21, 1990)

This case occurred at night in Pereslavl-Zalesski's region, east of Moscow. It was reported by an article of the general of aviation Igor Maltsev, commander of the air Forces of defence, appeared in the newspaper Rabochaya Tribuna (" Stand of the Employees ") on April 19, 1990: " UFO on radars of air defence ". One mentioned there the sending combat aircraft in mission of interception of the discovered UFO. The general Maltsev, who made the synthesis of more than hundred visual observations collected by majors of unity, declared :

" I am not a specialist of the UFO, and so I can only connect among them the data and express my own hypothesis. According to the data collected by these witnesses, the UFO was a disc of a diameter from 100 to 200 meters. Two lights flashed on the sides... Furthermore, the object turned around its axis and made an evolution in shape of S at the same moment in the plans vertical and horizontal. Then the UFO remained still over the ground, then flew from a speed two - three times superior to that of the modern combat aircraft... Objects flew from heights going from 100 to 7000 m. The movement of the UFO was accompanied by no sort of noise and was characterized by a stunning maneuvrability. The UFO seemed completely deprived by slowness. In other words, they had one way or another mastered the gravity. At the moment, ground machines could not present such characteristics ".

40 posted on 04/02/2003 6:56:44 PM PST by Orion78 (Free Tibet! Free Iraq! Just be sure to watch your back!)
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