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LA Times' apology for altered war photo
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Posted on 04/02/2003 10:44:49 AM PST by hemogoblin



On Monday, March 31, the Los Angeles Times published a front-page photograph that had been altered in violation of Times policy. The primary subject of the photo was a British soldier directing Iraqi civilians to take cover from Iraqi fire on the outskirts of Basra. After publication, it was noticed that several civilians in the background appear twice.

The photographer, Brian Walski, reached by telephone in southern Iraq, acknowledged that he had used his computer to combine elements of two photographs, taken moments apart, in order to improve the composition. Times policy forbids altering the content of news photographs.

See the photos here: http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-ednote_blurb.blurb

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agitprop; aidandcomfort; altered; antiamerican; ccrm; dishonestjournalism; doctoredphoto; fake; fraud; journalism; lamestreammedia; latimes; losangelestimes; mediabias; photo; photograph; presstitutes; propaganda; warcorrespondents
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To: ExpatCanuck
You have got to be kidding. I've seen all 3 pictures (the 2 originals and the final copy) and the soldier is made to appear to be threatening and yelling at the guy with the kid in his arms, when in reality that is nowhere close to what was happening. This is beyond dishonest; I would go so far as to say this is treasonous.

No, I'm not kidding. If the two original pictures do not make the soldier look threatening, then the composite most certainly doesn't.

This knee-jerk hyperventilating does nothing but make us look petty and reactionary. The guy did this to enhance the composition of the photo, not to commit treason.

21 posted on 04/02/2003 12:10:53 PM PST by TomB
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To: hemogoblin
Man, there are some eagle eyes out there. It took me a while to spot the dupe, and I knew what I was looking for.

Thanks for posting.
22 posted on 04/02/2003 12:57:47 PM PST by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: TomB
This knee-jerk hyperventilating does nothing but make us look petty and reactionary. The guy did this to enhance the composition of the photo, not to commit treason.

There's no treason her first of all, you're right, but he DID alter the photo considerably. The photog wanted the shot with the soldier aggressively gesturing toward the man w/ baby, but did NOT want the man looking backward toward the source of the real danger.

23 posted on 04/02/2003 1:02:00 PM PST by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: ExpatCanuck
You have got to be kidding. I've seen all 3 pictures (the 2 originals and the final copy) and the soldier is made to appear to be threatening and yelling at the guy with the kid in his arms, when in reality that is nowhere close to what was happening. This is beyond dishonest; I would go so far as to say this is treasonous.

(By the way, this was a photographer, not a reporter.) I think that once we agree that it's wrong to combine photos, the question is was an effort made to portray the soldier (British?) in a bad light. My answer is definitely "no."

So the guy is yelling. I think it was made clear in the printed newspaper he was trying to get them to take cover from Iraqi fire. Nearly anybody would understand yelling is appropriate in that situation.

You say that in the final version he appears to be threatening the guy with the child in his arms. I say instead that it's less likely he's pointing his gun barrel at them.

I think some people on this thread need to take a few deep breaths and not immediately conclude evil was intended just because an altered photo appeared in a liberal newspaper.

24 posted on 04/02/2003 1:13:15 PM PST by slowry
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To: slowry
Oh, I don't know. There's a procedure for labeling a pic that's been messed with. Remember the NY Post's famous Axis of Weasels front page? They gave credit for a graphic image. Did the Times do that? If not, then they deserve the ration of excrement they're getting. The reader shouldn't have to wonder what's real and what's been dicked with.
25 posted on 04/02/2003 1:16:16 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; slowry
Oh, I don't know. There's a procedure for labeling a pic that's been messed with. Remember the NY Post's famous Axis of Weasels front page? They gave credit for a graphic image. Did the Times do that? If not, then they deserve the ration of excrement they're getting. The reader shouldn't have to wonder what's real and what's been dicked with.

Let's try this again. NOBODY on this thread, from what I can tell, feels that what the photographer did was right. We all agree that it is inappropriate to alter pictures without attribution. So the Times was correct in firing the photographer who did it once they discovered the problem.

The question that arises is, essentially, was it malicious in intent? I say that, looking at the originals and using my limited photography experience, it is more than obvious that the photographer was looking for a better composition, not to portray the Brit soldier as threatening.

26 posted on 04/02/2003 1:31:11 PM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
If the two original pictures do not make the soldier look threatening, then the composite most certainly doesn't.

Your logic is distorted, because the soldier is indeed threatening in all 3 pictures, but he is presented as less humane when pointing his gun at a man with a child instead of at some other perceived threat in the distance. And that, I believe, was the effect the photog was going for. Unless one reads the story (and most people won't), the perception is that this soldier is behaving in a threatening manner to unarmed civilians.

27 posted on 04/02/2003 1:57:44 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: ExpatCanuck
and the soldier is made to appear to be threatening and yelling at the guy with the kid in his arms, when in reality that is nowhere close to what was happening. This is beyond dishonest; I would go so far as to say this is treasonous.

That was exactly my impression of the doctored photo before reading any comments. At first glance until you read the caption, it looks like the solider is threatening the man and his child.

28 posted on 04/02/2003 2:02:23 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ExpatCanuck
Your logic is distorted, because the soldier is indeed threatening in all 3 pictures, but he is presented as less humane when pointing his gun at a man with a child instead of at some other perceived threat in the distance.

We aren't discussing logic here, we are discussing perception. And if you think that the composite picture is "less humane" as the second original, where the gun actually looks like it is being pointed AT someone, then there is nothing else to say. But it should be pointed out to lurkers who scan this site looking for silly, reactionary posts, that many here don't think there was malice in the intent of the photographer. For the simple reason that if this guy wanted to make a picture that makes this Brit soldier look bad, he could have done a MUCH better job.

29 posted on 04/02/2003 2:31:22 PM PST by TomB
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To: hemogoblin
Welcome hemoglobin!

Bill O'Reilly just led tonight with this story. The LA Times' credibility is totally destroyed, because they finally got caught.

30 posted on 04/02/2003 5:04:10 PM PST by Timesink (Six hundred and four, Toxteth O'Grady, USA.)
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To: *Presstitutes; MEDIANEWS; *CCRM; *Lamestream Media

MEGAPING! THE ULTIMATE VIOLATION OF JOURNALISTIC ETHICS BY THE LOS ANGELES TIMES!


31 posted on 04/02/2003 5:05:41 PM PST by Timesink (Six hundred and four, Toxteth O'Grady, USA.)
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To: lilylangtree
I just read the announcement on MSN news that the reporter was fired for the altering.

He was fired for getting caught.

32 posted on 04/02/2003 5:06:16 PM PST by Timesink (Six hundred and four, Toxteth O'Grady, USA.)
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To: Redcloak
I think they have no problem with made up photos that fit their propoganda as long as they are made well enough not to get caught, that is the real story here, its ok to deceive, just don't get caught...
33 posted on 04/02/2003 5:08:18 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Timesink

JOURNALISTIC ETHICS IS AN OXYMORON


34 posted on 04/02/2003 5:11:00 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (* * Common Sense is an Oxymoron * *)
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To: slowry
It does make one wonder how often photo alterations occur.

It's not really capital-J Journalism, but there's not a non-news magazine cover in America that isn't Photoshopped out the wazzoo first.

35 posted on 04/02/2003 5:11:24 PM PST by Timesink (Six hundred and four, Toxteth O'Grady, USA.)
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To: TomB
O'Reilly just reported that the picture was doctored to make it look as though the Brit Royal Marine was pointing his weapon at a civilian !

I'm no fan of the LA Times, but what O'Reilly just pulled is worse. The Marine's rifle is pointed at folks in both pictures, and it should be.

I'm disappointed with Bill, dangit what is it with folks ? They get a little power and almost invariably abuse it. I won't be lied to by reporters, and that includes FOX !

36 posted on 04/02/2003 5:12:49 PM PST by SENTINEL (Proud USMC Gulf War Grunt !)
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To: hemogoblin; *CCRM
Posted to *CCRM
37 posted on 04/02/2003 5:16:24 PM PST by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: TomB
But is the picture somehow dishonest?

Sure is. The doctored photo shows the gun pointing at the civilians -- making the soldier appear to be threatening them.

This propaganda is similar to what CNN was showing last weekend: a soldier aiming a rifle around a corner of a building, with an Arab woman walking nearby. The implication was, the soldier was aiming at a civilian, or was aiming and didn't care if a civilian was approaching.

I'm sure the truth was, the soldier was rounding the corner and sticking the gun out first for protection. Isn't that standard policy?

38 posted on 04/02/2003 5:18:09 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: hemogoblin
'wag the dog'...
39 posted on 04/02/2003 5:19:07 PM PST by plusone
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To: SENTINEL
I'm disappointed with Bill, dangit what is it with folks ? They get a little power and almost invariably abuse it. I won't be lied to by reporters, and that includes FOX !

It gets worse. Tony Snow was on earlier and reported the same thing. He actually said the doctored picture made it look like the soldier was threatening the man. I just can't see how they would think that. The whole episode makes them look bad.

40 posted on 04/02/2003 5:20:09 PM PST by TomB
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