[Zavien Doombringer]

True, True. I always dispised the adim (702's) while I was lugging a 75lbs toolbox on the hot/cold/wet/humid/windy flight line (Clark AB - 86-89, Eglin 85-56, Dover 82-85)

[stuartcr]

The Navy is different. Unless you're a pilot or SEAL, all rates, admin or not are on the ship....it's just that since WW2, there hasn't been many ships shot at, the job really isn't much different whether you're off the vacapes, or in the Indian Ocean.