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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 14 - LIVE THREAD***

Posted on 04/01/2003 9:10:41 PM PST by Capitalism2003



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iowa; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; war; warlist
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To: Capitalism2003
nope
2,001 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:12 PM PST by GOPyouth (Belly Girl is all that is Woman. :))
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To: XJarhead
keeping it all to yourself, eh??

he he he he he...

2,002 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:13 PM PST by Solson ((don't mind me...I'm just here for the food.))
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To: Capitalism2003
NO! I have 2000. It's MINE ALL MINE!
2,003 posted on 04/02/2003 1:10:49 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Mo1
Reporter: Is the President overly stressed about the war?
Ari: No not abnormally so
Reporter: So, he is an uncaring dolt who sends men and women willy-nilly to the painful deaths without a thought about their grieving families and crying children...
Ari: No, I mean he cares and it troubles him to...
Reporter: So the illiterate dope is quivering in a ball on the floor beneath his desk because he started a war and he can't handle it, the bedwetting little pus....
Ari: No, I mean...
Reporter: Make up your mind
2,004 posted on 04/02/2003 1:11:03 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Even Jim Angle is disappearing under quicksand. These people just cannot get their grey matter around the way George W. Bush operates. Prior to the advent of this campaign, this President asked the questions ... the primary one being "is this a winning plan" ... necessary to inspire and energize his staff to think twice, thrice and one more time about their recommendation. He trusts the people who have demonstrated trustworthiness, he pushes them to question their own assumptions and develop their own resolve and assuredness - and he gives them authority and responsibility based on his judgement of the plan, but more accurately, judgement of their skill, courage and wisdom.

Bush set out the operating parameters here: We will, whenever possible, minimize casualties to Iraqi citizens and vital infrastructure. That was part of a political calcualation, understanding that we're going to be mucking around in that hellhole for a while and since we have the tools of accuracy and timing, we'll use them.

Rumsfeld, Franks and the management council came to Bush when the opportunity to vaporize Saddam in his flop house materialized that first night. That was a material and profound change in the plan the Prez authorized. If bombing a hospital would achieve an unarguable and vital operational objective ... they would probably run that by the Joint Chiefs and Rumsfeld first, then Bush. That's a tough tradeoff, it comes into conflict with the operational parameter of rules of engagement, and that warrants the Big Boy's attention and approval or squelch.

Rescuing a fellow soldier when the time is ripe is not something the CIC needs to authorize. He doesn't have to be in the loop if the Charmin is going to the Marines and the Army is going to be pissed because they get the Puffs two ply again. Bush is not interested in the Geraldo Rivera crisis one iota, and Maureen Dowd's heartsickness for Michael Douglas can't make him laugh like it used to.

These reporters hear nothing. They are at press conferences to make statements and present challenges and fodder for feeling doubtful, fearful and uncertain about this President and our campaign.

2,005 posted on 04/02/2003 1:11:20 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: babaloo
Terry Moran is an @ss

Is Terry Moran the blonde one from CNN who always looks like he is snearing or he smelled something really bad?

2,006 posted on 04/02/2003 1:13:01 PM PST by retrokitten ("Well, she just can't be tamed...she's a burnin' flame..." -Hank III)
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To: All
Hey, can I PLEASE get a summary of important thigns that have occurred today?? I just got back form the gym and school before that so I haven't seen much news
2,007 posted on 04/02/2003 1:17:21 PM PST by ztiworoh
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To: rolling_stone
Winning the heart & minds of most arabs, I would take Arab tv reporters to the holy site , where Saddam SS killers are located at,and show the entire world what they are doing at there holy mosques sites. The World PR is key to VICTORY !!!!!
2,008 posted on 04/02/2003 1:17:28 PM PST by Orlando
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To: retrokitten
ABC News.


2,009 posted on 04/02/2003 1:18:07 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: AppyPappy
I can see Helen the Troll asking those questions?
2,010 posted on 04/02/2003 1:18:35 PM PST by Mo1 (Can I ask the media stupid questions?)
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To: ztiworoh
Two RG division have been defeated. We're 20 miles from Baghdad.
2,011 posted on 04/02/2003 1:18:52 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: ArneFufkin
Great post. I just looked for Jim Angle's email adress on Fox's site, but to no avail. I'd love to foward him a copy of your post; our President needs everyone's support. I can just imagine the pain he feels when notified of each death or loss in this war. But he's made the call and will bravely lead us to victory.
2,012 posted on 04/02/2003 1:19:35 PM PST by Quilla
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To: ztiworoh
There hasn't been a whole lot new today. We are reportedly right outside of Baghdad, heavy bombing in and around Baghdad, there's some sort of anti-belly girl movement afoot....

What am I missing, folks?
2,013 posted on 04/02/2003 1:20:01 PM PST by retrokitten ("Well, she just can't be tamed...she's a burnin' flame..." -Hank III)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Not who I thought he was, but he does still look like he smelled something bad.
2,014 posted on 04/02/2003 1:20:50 PM PST by retrokitten ("Well, she just can't be tamed...she's a burnin' flame..." -Hank III)
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To: ztiworoh
[All times GMT and approximate]

Wednesday, 2 April

1400: US forces report that B-52 bombers have used a new version of a cluster bomb against an Iraqi tank column in central Iraq; the weapon adapts to wind and weather to hit targets more accurately.

1330: US military says it is looking into an allegation that coalition aircraft have bombed a Red Crescent maternity hospital in Baghdad.

1300: Brigadier General Vincent Brooks of US Central Command says American troops have crossed a "red line" around Baghdad which the military believe could trigger a chemical attack by Iraqi forces.

1255: UK forces say they have found what they believe is a torture centre run by Saddam Hussein's secret police in the southern town of Abu al-Khasib.

1230: Doctors at the Saddam Hospital in central Nasiriya say they have registered more than 250 deaths since the fighting in the city began.

1226: US military says US forces have destroyed Baghdad division of Republican Guard and that other Republican Guard divisions are in trouble and under serious attack.

1200: Turkey and the US say they have agreed on a number of measures to improve their co-operation in Iraq, including some support for US troops and access for humanitarian aid.

1148: Iraq's information minister denies US troops have crossed the Tigris river in their advance on Baghdad.

1120: US military says Iraqi forces fired on coalition troops from inside revered mosque in Najaf, but American troops did not return fire. Iraqi information minister accuses US-led forces of targeting the shrine.

1100: President Saddam Hussein chairs meeting on Wednesday of top officials, Iraqi state television says, but no footage shown.

1050: One of President Saddam Hussein's palaces in central Baghdad hit by missile or bomb, news agency reports say.

1035: BBC Monitoring reports that Iraqi satellite TV went off air at this time and is currently not transmitting on any of the three satellite frequencies they monitor.

1000: Russia protests to the United States over an air strike which Moscow says targeted an area close to its embassy in Baghdad.

0955: Amnesty International urges US-led forces in Iraq to take greater care to prevent civilian casualties and calls for independent inquiry into killing of seven people at a US checkpoint. Criticises Iraq for using soldiers disguised as civilians.

0825: US Secretary of State Colin Powell meets Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul to try to win more co-operation from Turkey for the US military campaign in northern Iraq.

0700: US marines say they have seized a key bridge across the River Tigris to take control of one of the main highways north towards Baghdad at the city of Kut.

0630: A structure in the southern city of Basra comes under heavy artillery fire from UK forces, who say they were fired upon overnight. Stream of civilian traffic seen leaving the city just prior to the firing, the BBC's Kylie Morris reports.

0550: US forces who rescued Private Jessica Lynch also found the bodies of two US soldiers and eight Iraqi troops, the US military says - it is not clear if they died in the operation or were already dead.

0545: US forces carry out sustained bombardment of Iraqi Republican Guard positions around Karbala overnight and move forward, the BBC's Gavin Hewitt reports.

0100: The Pentagon confirms a soldier rescued earlier is Private Jessica Lynch, a supply clerk who was captured on 23 March.

0037: US military sources say US ground forces have begun a major engagement against the Medina and Baghdad divisions of the Iraqi Republican Guard south of Baghdad.

0025: Central Command spokesman General Vincent Brooks says US forces have rescued a US army prisoner of war. Seven Americans have been listed as prisoners; an unnamed source in Washington says the rescued soldier is one of them.

0010: US Senator John Warner condemns "retired military officers" for criticising the administration's conduct of the war in Iraq. The chairman of the Senate armed services committee urges them to behave like former US presidents, "who do not criticise the current president when there is a war going on".

At the same briefing, Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld says there has been no more precise bombing campaign "in recent memory" and that Saddam Hussein is a greater threat to the Iraqi people than the US campaign is.

2,015 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:00 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: retrokitten
This just hit breaking news:

****UNITED STATES FORCES REACH BAGHDAD****
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/883207/posts
2,016 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:28 PM PST by Quilla
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To: GraniteStateConservative
We're 20 miles from Baghdad.

UNLEASH THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

2,017 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:29 PM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: babaloo
Terry Moran is an @ss.

Does that mean she's a crack reporter?

2,018 posted on 04/02/2003 1:21:35 PM PST by Consort
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To: retrokitten
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(whoops! cat stepped on keyboard and wouldn't move) It was a great article except for the little statement that the U.S. needs good news like this because of all the Iraqi deaths. I liked this quote: The mother and child, both said to be doing well, were given food, water and bandages and were later driven home in a U.S. military ambulance.

2,019 posted on 04/02/2003 1:22:04 PM PST by Lauratealeaf (God be with out troops and President Bush)
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To: Catspaw
The way the competition has been for the 1000,2000,3000, 4,000 etc post numbers, you could probably auction off your "2000". I'll be your agent, for a small %. (G)
2,020 posted on 04/02/2003 1:22:59 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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