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Alberta leads in national pro-U.S. shift
Calgary Herald | 2003 Calgary Herald

Posted on 04/01/2003 8:47:09 AM PST by albertabound

Calgary support for war rises: poll Alberta leads in national pro-U.S. shift

Mark Reid Calgary Herald

support for the U.S.-led war in Iraq is surging in Calgary and across the province, with three-quarters of Albertans in favour of Canada joining the fight, according to a new poll.

However, despite growing support for the war in Alberta and across the country, the Chretien government is standing firm on its decision to keep Canada out of the conflict.

"The (federal) government really blew it by looking at short-term polls (saying Canadians were against the war)," said pollster Faron Ellis of JMCK Polling.

"You're now seeing a shift everywhere, outside of Quebec, in favour of the war -- and Alberta is leading the edge of that shift."

The new poll, commissioned by the Calgary Herald and Global Television, also suggests young Albertans are more likely to oppose the war than baby boomers or seniors.

Conducted on March 26 and 27, JMCK Polling surveyed 872 Albertans. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

The survey asked one question: "Do you believe that Canada should be a part of the military coalition supporting the war against Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq?"

In Calgary, a whopping 72.5 per cent said they wanted Canada to fight in the war.

Support for the invasion dipped slightly in Edmonton, but 58.6 per cent of respondents there still wanted Canada to enter the conflict.

As for the rest of the province, support for the war is soaring at 75.1 per cent.

The results show support for the war has risen since a similar poll was conducted by JMCK last week.

That poll suggested about 52.5 per cent of Albertans disagreed with Chretien's decision to keep Canada out of the war.

In Calgary, 58.1 per cent were in favour of joining the invasion, while in Edmonton, 62.4 per cent of people wanted Canada to stay out of the Iraq conflict.

In recent days, national polls have indicated growing support for the war across Canada, excluding Quebec.

However, in Ottawa, a spokeswoman for Prime Minister Jean Chretien said the polls will not change the federal government's stance of non-involvement in the Iraq war without United Nations approval.

"(The war in Iraq) is such an extremely important issue, it's normal that people have strong opinions on it," said spokeswoman Frederique Tsai.

"The prime minister did say that while we are not part of the coalition, we want the U.S. to win and we want them to win quickly, with a minimum of casualties."

Ellis said the new poll suggests Albertans have become "polarized" by the war, with pro-war and antiwar camps staunchly refusing to budge from their ideological bunkers.

However, with U.S. and British casualties mounting, and with the war now a reality rather than an abstract notion, more and more fence-sitters are deciding to shift to the pro-war camp.

"There's a polarization and an intensity of opinions on both sides," Ellis said.

"You are never going to change the peaceniks or the hawks, but it's the floating majority in the middle that you see moving."

At the beginning of the war, peace activists held rallies across Alberta and around the world in protest.

However, in recent days, pro-war forces have held several rallies in Alberta and Ottawa to show their support for the Americans -- and to express their shame and embarrassment at Chretien's decision to keep Canada out of the fight.

John vanderHeyden, a Picture Butte senior, spoke at a pro-war rally in that town on Friday.

VanderHeyden welcomed the poll results, saying all Albertans should support the United States in its time of need.

"Saddam Hussein is a monster and should be removed . . . and the Iraqi people should be liberated," vanderHeyden said.

"The States, they are our neighbours and we should support our neighbours. If there were a war over here, the U.S. would protect Canada."

Calgary peace activists, meanwhile, were skeptical of the poll results, saying they believe the majority of Albertans and Canadians are against the war.

"The vast majority (of people), worldwide, are opposed to the war," said Gordon Christie, spokesman for the Calgary and District Labour Council.

Julie Hrdlicka, the Calgary spokeswoman for the Canadian Network for Ending Sanctions in Iraq, said the poll, if accurate, merely gives her incentive to work harder at getting her pro-peace message out.

"It motivates me to push harder," Hrdlicka said. "A lot of people don't know the issues."

According to the poll, more men (73.7 per cent) than women (64.3 per cent) support Canada's involvement in the war.

Support for the war is strongest among seniors (77.7 per cent) and baby boomers (73.7 per cent) and weakest among Albertans under the age of 29, with 41.4 per cent of young Albertans opposed to the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein.

Ellis said many of those in favour of the war said they were embarrassed and ashamed of Canada's dove-like stance.

Gordon Turtle, spokesman for Alberta Premier Ralph Klein, said the poll shows that, when the chips are down, Albertans support their American neighbours in times of trouble.

"Regardless of where people stood before the war broke out, now that it's underway, there's a lot of support for our American allies," Turtle said.

mreid@theherald.canwest.com

For the latest developments, watch newscasts and updates on Global TV. For continuous coverage, log on to canada.com search word: War Desk

Showdown with Saddam. This story features a factbox "Calgary's position on the war in Iraq".

© Copyright 2003 Calgary Herald


TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alberta; pollsoniraq; thankyoucanada
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1 posted on 04/01/2003 8:47:09 AM PST by albertabound
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To: albertabound
Is this a conservative Western Canada vs. a liberal Eastern Canada thing?

Canadians, please give us input!

2 posted on 04/01/2003 8:50:24 AM PST by Tom Pain
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To: albertabound
Or, do French Canadians tend to side w/France and English speaking Canadians tend to side w/UK and USA?
3 posted on 04/01/2003 8:52:04 AM PST by Tom Pain
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To: albertabound
I have said it before and will say it again that Albertans would love to secede from Canada and become part of the US.
4 posted on 04/01/2003 8:53:21 AM PST by Mihalis
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To: Tom Pain
It a is "French Canadians tend to side w/France and English speaking Canadians tend to side w/UK and USA" I lived in Toronto in the early 70's. The English Canadians would tell me this joke: "The best thing that could happen to Canada would be for 50,000 WOPS to walk south with a FROG under each arm."
5 posted on 04/01/2003 8:56:42 AM PST by Nagual
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To: Tom Pain
I think its a east/west thing. I'm not sure, but I think Ontario is with Quebec, while BC is more in line with Alberta.
6 posted on 04/01/2003 8:56:43 AM PST by jae471
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To: Nagual
Whatsa WOP?
7 posted on 04/01/2003 8:57:57 AM PST by jae471
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To: Tom Pain
Shift? Those of us that I know of here in the West that support the U.S. haven't "shifted" anywhere, we've been with you since the beginning.

That said, every easterner I know is liberal and opposed to the U.S.
8 posted on 04/01/2003 8:59:22 AM PST by Ryle
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To: albertabound
Anytime you English speaking Canucks want to break away from the cowardly, socialist French pukes now running your country & join the good ole' US of A, let us know.
9 posted on 04/01/2003 9:03:02 AM PST by MCH
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To: MCH
Alberta residents should help change Canada.
10 posted on 04/01/2003 9:07:37 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: albertabound
We must never forget that when push came to shove our neighbor to the north chose to ally itself with such stalwart nations as Russia, China and N.Korea, and turn its back on the U.K., Australia and U.S.A.
11 posted on 04/01/2003 9:12:04 AM PST by Black Bart
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To: albertabound
Statehood for Alberta!
12 posted on 04/01/2003 9:15:17 AM PST by Between the Lines
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To: Mihalis; albertabound
We should offer statehood to Alberta, Manitoba and BC. If the other provinces want in, they can apply as well (although Newfoundland, PEI and New Brunswick are too small to get in unless we combine them all into one). If Quebec wants its independence, they can achieve it by driving all the other provinces away.
13 posted on 04/01/2003 9:18:05 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: albertabound
read later
14 posted on 04/01/2003 9:24:16 AM PST by beaversmom (After the Axis of Evil on to the Axis of Weasels)
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To: albertabound
Alberta leads in national pro-U.S. shift

Despite the bad manners of some Montreal fans recently, the New York Yankees
were treated very kindly by their hosts at the game in Toronto yesterday.
The homecrowd cheered when "God Bless America" was played for the "seventh inning
stretch"...the major baseball league management had that played instead of "Take Me
Out To The Ball Game" yesterday.

Photo at this URL:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?slug=1049166740yankees_blue_jays_fng118&prov=ap
15 posted on 04/01/2003 9:24:58 AM PST by VOA
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To: jae471
WOP - term for Italian people.

(no flames please just explaining what it is :)

As for Canada, yeah the frogs stick with the other frogs in their slimy pond and screw the majority of us Canadians. They are responsible for most of our woes. Their cruddy little province is a black hole down which the rest of the country's money flows.

Their arrogance is unsurpassed as seen in our illustrious leader (and the fact that we have to have french and english signs and text on all products in Ontario, but god forbid having english on a sign in Queerbec).

They are also responsible for the moral decay of this nation (what would you expect from the progeny of people enticed over here from france with the promise of prostitutes galore).
16 posted on 04/01/2003 9:26:00 AM PST by battousai (Stop the Iraqi Information Ministry...turn off ABCNNBCBS)
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To: albertabound
Maybe the feeling will drift down into the state of washington and catch on. Probably too much to hope for.
17 posted on 04/01/2003 9:28:06 AM PST by paul51
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To: albertabound
Is there any way we can make Alberta the 51st state long before we consider Puerto Rico again? Albertans are some of the nicest folks I've ever met. Those folks east of Thunder Bay and West of Nova Scotia, that's another story.

V


18 posted on 04/01/2003 9:30:31 AM PST by Beck_isright (If Susan Sarandon pooped in the woods, would ELF boycott her?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Alberta residents should help change Canada."

Alberta has always been the leading edge of anti-Establishment politics in Canada.

The Canadian Alliance Party, our only hope of ousting the Liberals at the next election, were founded in Alberta, by Albertans!

I'm prejudiced; both of my parents, and two of my children were born in Wild Rose Country.
19 posted on 04/01/2003 9:30:52 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: albertabound
Alberta, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Ontario and Nova Scotia - SECEDE!!!
20 posted on 04/01/2003 9:42:15 AM PST by muleskinner
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