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Administration Source: Bagdad Will Fall From Within
Newsmax.com ^
| March 30, 2003
| Carl Limbacher
Posted on 03/29/2003 9:29:39 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Burkeman1
Unfounded assumption #1: "Our fancy boy neocons" did not know this.
Unfounded assumption #2: OFBN = people in power (U.S.)
Two strikes. You're certainly down in the count.
-=I=-
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:50:47 PM PST
by
=Intervention=
(so freaking sick of the lies...)
To: Lady In Blue
That's what what John Keegan has also said. We don't need to enter Baghdad, it will collapse from within after we surround it.
To: walden
"I don't think so-- this is coming out from too many places, which tells me the Administration WANTS it out. Why, I don't know, but we'll see." Everyone in the government will become suspicious of each other.
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:51:36 PM PST
by
blam
To: green team 1999
if this news was read on baghdad ,it could get people killed,the source should have kept quiet. Maybe the purpose of it is to get people killed. Saddam's paranoia of potential traitors is well known.
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:55:15 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: Burkeman1
"That this was not known to our fancy boy neocons when calling for this war is less than heartening."
They know that his military uses Russian tactics. Hard to believe they wouldn't know this.
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:55:45 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: blam
Probably tied to the bodyguard mystery of the night. Assume Saddam is not well enough to supervise Rammadan and the boys, his sons are dead and he does not trust them in fornt of the press. He sends his thug out to watch the thugs. A bunch of vipers who can not trust each other because of the massive corruption and evil underlying the whole regime. WHo will get immunity for war crimes, etc.
A_R
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:56:10 PM PST
by
arkady_renko
(I know they've been let down before)
To: =Intervention=
I don't think I am making any wrong assumptions based on the published works of the most vocal pundits who called for this war prior to it's starting. The most ludicruos being those of Perle- recently resigned.
We will win this war but the sail is out of the wings of those who had more wars in mind after.
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posted on
03/29/2003 9:58:50 PM PST
by
Burkeman1
(i)
To: blam
What I want to know is what makes these Iraqui Ministers you see on tv look so cocky. Do you think this is just a good act, or do they know something we don't?
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:01:02 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: TheLion
To be fair- I suspect Bush did have a clue. He was warning that it wasn't going to be a cakewalk before this started. I just think the Pentagon should have been listened too and we bulked up to 4 to 5 hundred thousand troops. And I am not sure how much influence these neocon guys have over Bush- I hope not much.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:02:47 PM PST
by
Burkeman1
(i)
To: Lady In Blue
If some Pentagon bigwig has gotten over optimistic about one particular scenario then this doesn't bother me. But I certainly hope they aren't counting on this.
To: arkady_renko
II Samuel 20:15-22
15Then they came and besieged him in Abel of Beth Maachah; and they cast up a siege mound against the city, and it stood by the rampart. And all the people who were with Joab battered the wall to throw it down.
16Then a wise woman cried out from the city, "Hear, hear! Please say to Joab, "Come nearby, that I may speak with you."' 17When he had come near to her, the woman said, "Are you Joab?"
He answered, "I am."
Then she said to him, "Hear the words of your maidservant."
And he answered, "I am listening."
18So she spoke, saying, "They used to talk in former times, saying, "They shall surely seek guidance at Abel,' and so they would end disputes. 19I am among the peaceable and faithful in Israel. You seek to destroy a city and a mother in Israel. Why would you swallow up the inheritance of the LORD?"
20And Joab answered and said, "Far be it, far be it from me, that I should swallow up or destroy! 21That is not so. But a man from the mountains of Ephraim, Sheba the son of Bichri by name, has raised his hand against the king, against David. Deliver him only, and I will depart from the city."
So the woman said to Joab, "Watch, his head will be thrown to you over the wall." 22Then the woman in her wisdom went to all the people. And they cut off the head of Sheba the son of Bichri, and threw it out to Joab.
Then he blew a trumpet, and they withdrew from the city, every man to his tent. So Joab returned to the king at Jerusalem.
To: Lady In Blue
I don't care how the regime falls; but please capture Hussein alive that he may be given a public and fair trial and summarily executed for all his oppressed citizens to see. Only then will they truly be free.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:04:35 PM PST
by
so_real
To: TheLion
". Do you think this is just a good act, or do they know something we don't?" Good act, lots of practice.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:05:14 PM PST
by
blam
Comment #34 Removed by Moderator
To: Burkeman1
They needed to start this war with fewer people and then build up. There was no way to cover the logistical problems, otherwise....imo.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:06:20 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: walden; *war_list; W.O.T.; Lady In Blue; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; ...
36
posted on
03/29/2003 10:06:44 PM PST
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Nuke Saddam and his Baby Milk Factories!!)
To: green team 1999
Another reason to doubt the story.
In any case we need to stop trying to fight
a clean war and fight it the only way
ugly and stop limiting our targets
and blow Baghdad to bits the entire city.
Start doing that and that will encourage
the people to kill Saddam.
To: blam
"Good act, lots of practice."
That applies, I think, especially to the Minister of disinformation, who Fox News refers to as "Bagdad Bob".
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:10:27 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: blam
Everyone in the government will become suspicious of each other. Exactly. Everytime we float a rumor like this, no telling how many Baghdad govt. officials are killed because of the growing paranoia.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:11:38 PM PST
by
razorbak
To: Lady In Blue
According to Fox Pentagon correspondent Bret Baier, the source told him "We know who's with us, and we know who's against us, and we're in constant communication."Well, this is a crafty and vicious and wily enemy. I wouldn't be too sure about knowing who's on who's side. We could have double agents here.
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posted on
03/29/2003 10:12:35 PM PST
by
LPStar
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