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To: fourdeuce82d; CyberAnt; Victoria Delsoul; Remedy; Coleus; Askel5; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; ...
If your heart is stopped during surgery, are you not a person? If your head is severed, but you body is put on a respirator to keep the organs fresh for transplant, are you still alive? Is the body a person? I don't think there is a single case of a head being severed but the body kept alive on machinery, for transplant purposes. But there are many examples of the head stopped functioning as an integral organ of the organism yet the remains of the organism is kept alive for organ harvesting. My now departed brother is an example and many of his body parts now help to sustain the lives of other individual human beings. And that is the point I would offer to you.

You were first an individual human being at your individual conception and first cell division. Your lifetime as an organism (not to be confused with an organ) started the continuum that is your individual human life when the gametes of your parents united. The zygote is an organism, with body parts, growing and thus expressing its individual human life. To miss this critical truth is to open the door to the utility of exploiting these earliest aged human beings, while wrongfully casting aside the truth of the cannibalism in the process of that exploitation. The embryo is an human being. Its stem cells are its body parts, even before the manifestation of organs can be differentiated in the individual human organism. To kill the embryo in order to harvest its body parts for use in treating another, older organism is as much cannibalism as treating an individual's illness by having the patient eat the embryo(s). The only way to stand against that cannibalism is by acknowledging the embryological truth that the embryo is an individual human being in its earliest age of a lifetime, a continuum of individual human life begun at conception.

62 posted on 03/30/2003 3:12:54 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
My now departed brother is an example

Sorry for your loss- glad that he has helped others even after his death.

You were first an individual human being at your individual conception and first cell division.

clearly, concisely stating my point- "heartbeat" has nothing to do with it, and detracts from that point.

72 posted on 03/30/2003 4:28:16 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: MHGinTN
Some young people who oppose abortion, and who were born after the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 declared that were is a constitutional right to abortion, have adopted a new rhetoric. One of them is Kelly Kroll, a junior at Boston College and president of American Collegians for Life, who says she is a "survivor of the abortion holocaust" because she was adopted. "Myself and my classmates have never known a world in which abortion wasn't legalized," she said. "We've realized that any one of us could have been aborted. When I talk about being a survivor of abortion, I am talking about it from a personal place."

Bump.

76 posted on 03/30/2003 6:42:39 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping.

(It wasn't possible for the NYT to make this a negative article, even though I suspect they tried. *FReepers,* on the other hand, somehow have managed to kick up a fuss. Oh well,,,,)
85 posted on 03/30/2003 9:35:52 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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To: MHGinTN
Great thread BUMP!
90 posted on 03/31/2003 6:44:34 AM PST by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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