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10-year-old held in slaying of boy, 3 -- Beating with bat and sex assault called 'horrific'
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 3/28/03 | DORE CARROLL AND TOM HAYDON

Posted on 03/28/2003 6:11:55 AM PST by Incorrigible

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To: jjm2111
The long wait for the gun permit was for a simple purchase permit. (Actually I think it was 5 1/2 months.) Surprisingly, the local police dept. treated me very nicely during the application process. It was at the state level I ran into roadblocks. And this was before McGreevey became governor, so I am sure it is growing worse.

A carry permit in NJ is almost impossible unless your last name is McGreevey, Lautenberg, or Corzine. (Don't laugh -- Rudy Guiliani was rabidly anti-gun for all law-abiding NYers, yet I read that he holds a concealed carry permit himself.)

41 posted on 03/28/2003 9:14:38 AM PST by hot august night
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To: steplock

"Our culture has come to celebrate violence and disrespect, while actively erasing the line between right and wrong. And now we have a generation of children who think violence is normal, respect for others passe, and moral relevance the law of the land." -- Rep. Dick Armey (Republican-Texas)


42 posted on 03/28/2003 9:16:02 AM PST by MatthewViti
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she was 17 and at the library. how can you put blame there?

She wasn't watching him.

43 posted on 03/28/2003 9:26:00 AM PST by PaulJ
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To: hot august night
No, I know full well about the double standard concerning NJ and NYC gun laws. Childhood friends of judges have gotten carry permits in NJ. That goes along with the usual celebrities, brahmins, etc.

I saw an excerpt of the NYC carry list that was done through a FOI filing. It read like a who's who of NYC. Harrison Ford, Howard Stern, William F. Buckley, Donald Trump. Pretty much every rich guy and celeb you could think of.

If a bodega owner in bed-stuy applied for one, fugghetaboutit.
44 posted on 03/28/2003 9:40:44 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Incorrigible
Give it a rest. The father is blind. The mother is deceased by four years, her son must have been six when she died. From cancer which doesn't strike you down overnight; she likely died after years of treatment and struggle to defeat the disease. What did she have to give the boy? Remember she was blind too. What was this doing to the father?
No, this boy got screwed, screwd badly by Fate. He never had a chance. He simply went from A to B to C as the plan was laid out for him.
The father? How was he to deal with his angry, sighted son? You can be sure he is mulling that over right now.
When you are on your knees tonight give voice to the thought, "There but for the Grace of God go I..."
45 posted on 03/28/2003 9:48:59 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Robert DeNiro and Don Imus also have concealed carry permits for NYC.

That doesn't suprise me about the judges' kids in NJ getting concealed carry permits (and I'll bet all these judges are liberal to boot!) The hypocrisy just makes you sick.

I live close to NYC, and lived in Manhattan for a couple of years. (I still commute to the City every day.) The Upper East Side and the Upper West Side, havens for the intellectual elite and our policy makers, are fantasy Candy Lands. Almost all these people live in white-glove doorman buildings with a lot of security. Instead of taking the subways, many take cabs so they don't have to mingle with the great unwashed.

46 posted on 03/28/2003 9:53:44 AM PST by hot august night
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I work in Manhattan too. You're absolutely right. The Park Ave crowd does live in Candy Land.
47 posted on 03/28/2003 10:17:24 AM PST by jjm2111
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candy land , lol
48 posted on 03/28/2003 8:34:41 PM PST by MatthewViti
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