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Defeat Troops, Professor Says(Freep Alert)
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| 3/28/03
| Ron Howell
Posted on 03/28/2003 5:44:19 AM PST by Sparky760
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To: Sparky760
TO:
'jrcs@columbia.edu'
Dear Dr. Cole:
I am shocked and disgusted at the speech given by Prof. De Genova at the so-called 'teach in' this week. That this fellow called for not only the defeat but the death of our U.S. soldiers is an absolute outrage.
As I understand it, the university's current position is that Prof. De Genova was speaking as an individual when he made these comments. I also understand that the 'teach in' was held at the university library. Quite frankly, how can an employer take a 'hands off' approach toward an employee who has publically made such outrageous and disgusting comments on property belonging to said employer, whether or not the individual was 'on duty' at the time? If the Professor wishes to say such things on non-campus property, that is one thing. But to allow him to espouse this type of 'doctrine' before students who look up to him as a teacher is unconscionable.
I and many others who have heard of Prof. De Genova's ridiculous comments expect you, as Provost of Columbia University, to take action against this 'gentleman' immediately. His behavior is completely unacceptable
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:30:44 AM PST
by
MEGoody
To: Sparky760
bttt
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:31:19 AM PST
by
tutstar
To: Flurry
a Columbia University professor called for the defeat of American forces Hmm. Sounds like "air and comfort to the enemy."
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:33:43 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
To: A Navy Vet
WTF?
What a piece of garbage !!! Blackbird.
To: AntiJen
Call them everyone. This creep - DeGenova has gotta go. This is no longer a First Amendment issue - this is treasonous!
I have called everyone there. The creep is probably gonna make a statement apologizing about the remarks and hoping that people won't misconstrue them---that they were made in the heat of the moment but America is all about free speech bla bla.
Watch this is what 's gonna happen. He isn't stupid-he needs his job. America and specifically Columbia - however does not need him! They a;ready have enough Marxists on the faculty.
To: RAT Patrol
Please send that comment to Foner. It's a great point, and he needs to read it.
To: MEGoody
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:49:06 AM PST
by
Munch
To: Marysecretary; Flurry
That's what I got from Columbia.
I'll call back and see if it's right or overflowed or what. Gimmie a few.
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:49:12 AM PST
by
AAABEST
To: MichaelP
Do what I do whenever someone ticks me off. Sign them up for junk mail and telemarketing. Carry this guy's address and phone number with you. When you see a "free giveaway" in a shopping mall, fill out his name and address on the card. When a telemarketer calls you, say you're not interested, but your good friend Nicholas would love this! Then give them the number.
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:51:14 AM PST
by
YourAdHere
(Christy will win Survivor)
To: MEGoody; Marysecretary; Flurry; Admin Moderator; John Robinson
Sorry it's jrc
5@columbia.edu NOT jrc
s@columbia.edu.
SORRY. Hey tinkerers, what are the chances of changing that on little character of html? Good, slim or none?
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:54:45 AM PST
by
AAABEST
To: YourAdHere
Columbia Professor hopes "a million Mogadishus" are visited on U.S. Troops * *
But what may have been most interesting about the teach-in was what the speakers persistently ignored. Not a single speaker mentioned the fact that a majority of the American public supports military action in Iraq. Only one speaker mentioned that the president obtained congressional authorization to use military force last year. And not a single professor answered, or even acknowledged, the question of whether Saddam Hussein would constitute a threat against innocents in the Middle East, the United States, and elsewhere were he to obtain nuclear weapons or provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorist proxies. Professor Robbins even claimed that "There is no threat [from Iraq] to prevent."
Matthew Continetti is a student at Columbia University.
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... * * ... If you send your reply from your posting page the link on the title goes with it !
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:56:47 AM PST
by
f.Christian
(( who you gonna call ... 1 800 orc // evo bstr ))
To: AAABEST
Ok. I'll try again.
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:57:10 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(It's not supposed to make sense.)
To: Sparky760
He should be arrested.
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posted on
03/28/2003 10:57:51 AM PST
by
Porterville
(Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
To: AntiJen
Columbia University - Office of Public Affairs Contact Form is at bottom of page.
This is a good place to flood them with comments.........good call. I just sent them my thoughts. I posed a question after saying how disgusting his comments were and that the college taking the stand that this is free speech is cowardly. The question I asked is if the Prof. had made the statement all blacks should be shipped to Africa, would that fall under the free speech clause?
To: AAABEST
Out of office assistant is on. Got
I will be out of the office until March 22, 2003.
Your mail will be read and answered when I return.
Best,
Jonathan R. Cole
March 22? He must be a time traveler, he has headed to the past to try and stop De Genova from saying what he said. I suspect this post and all evidence will just disappear shortly, I
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posted on
03/28/2003 11:03:15 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(It's not supposed to make sense.)
To: All
Bump for further action!
To: Sparky760
My letter to the Provost...
Hello,
I wanted to express my concern over the comments recently made by Professor De Genova at the Low Library.
I believe that part of the goodness of the United States is that by virtue of the form of government we head dear, citizens are allowed to express themselves, if they choose, in a controversial manner, and concerning controversial topics. Is important for students develop critical thinking skills and to make important decisions, decisions that will help guide them in the rest of life's ventures.
However, Professor De Genova calling for "a million Mogadishus" serves an extremely limited purpose. Making this and other statements does not take a modicum of rational thought or reasonable contemplation. Indeed, it incites and demonstrates to people that whatever educational preparation Professor De Genova has undertaken, has apparently been overruled by such breathtaking emotionalism, that one can reasonably question if Professor De Genova use facts, logic and reasoning to put forth and define a position. I would seriously question his ability to do so based on his recent comments.
I understand Columbia must ensure that the University is one in which the openness and free expression of ideas flourish with the primary objective to educate. However, it would appear to this outsider, that Professor De Genova has put his opinion above and beyond his primary charge - to educate. I believe the reasonable man could conclude that Professor De Genova is not primarily committed to educating students, but using the University as the means to advance his personal political agenda, with educating students of lessor import.
I would also be concerned that Columbia may indeed have its' reputation harmed by this incident. I believe that by the University not speaking out concerning such inflammatory statements, the commitment of the University, first and foremost to a quality education, can certainly be called into question. His comments certainly bring discredit to your institution.
Regards,
/s/
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posted on
03/28/2003 11:08:00 AM PST
by
Fury
To: Fury
Well put, Fury.
To: AAABEST
I resent it and it got there okay. He's not in the office today (probably in bed with a BIG headache!). Thanks for the info. M
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posted on
03/28/2003 11:10:59 AM PST
by
Marysecretary
(GOD is still in control!)
To: Flurry
he has headed to the past to try and stop De Genova from saying what he said. I suspect this post and all evidence will just disappear shortly, I LOL! (a needed one). He's in the past right now running up to the stage saying "no dumbass, don't say what you're about to say"!
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posted on
03/28/2003 11:11:12 AM PST
by
AAABEST
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