Fortuyn killer was 'protecting Dutch muslims'

BreakingNews.ie ^ | 3/27/2003 | Wire/BreakingNews.ie

[Victoria Delsoul]

Fortuyn, a brash gay academic and columnist, swiftly gained popularity with calls to close the borders to newcomers, at one time calling Islam a "backward religion". His party won more than 10% of the electorate and a place in the three-party right-wing governing coalition.

A backward religion? Didn't he know that Islam is the religion of peace? No wonder he got killed.

< /sarcasm>

[Bob J]

Didn't hear anything about him pulling the wings off flys either.

[lavaroise]

Re: Root Cause of our Predicament.

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America was founded by men who believed in something far beyond themselves.....I agree with that completely in the metaphysical sense....
But also in the physical sense.....America was founded by men who believed deeply in THEMSELVES!!! Meaning....they believed in the righteousness of their cause, Man's ability to live a virtuous life, Man's ability to live in ordered Liberty and self-govern himself with the minimum of State interference, in short, Man's ability to live Free, and if necessary to die for that Freedom.....
Maybe that is the kind of personages and personalities we need to regain and renew as Americans in order to face the gathering geo-political and social storms about to hit....maybe that is the basis of the "new" Aristocracy some of you have talked about on this board....
That combination of belief in a higher power beyond oneself, BUT ALSO, the belief that that higher power created the self....and so the self is an extension of God's Hand....the self as a self-confident expression of God's Righteousness and God's Freedom on this earth as well as in Heaven....a calm righteousness...believing in that higher power but knowing that that higher power can be expressed through us....on this earth, in this realm....through ourselves....the New Aristocrats.
Respectfully, John.

sharpy
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(3/28/03 8:08:42 am)
Reply RE: Root causes of our predicament

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Instead of root cause, we should ask people to look for the root culprits and the root ideologies that tell people to react as they do when a "root cause" causes to react that way.

As for the free man exercising virtue, I do not think this not how America was really founded. America was founded on awareness of man's sins, and that is why any form of governance was restricted, whether state, federal or individual. An individual cannot prevent another etc..

Also America was founded on a virtuous Federal system but on a free willing state system because the Founders knew that for a nation to be successful it had to develop the most virtuous leadership possible while letting the selfish needs of the populace unchecked, and in fact used as motivation. America was once made of free and nasty generals when they were called to duty, meanwhile civilian rule was lead by people of virtue and business was left to its most basic ruthlessness to the limits of the humane. This of course has been constantly attacked by the commies. But considering the commi threat, we should be even freeer as it is to suppress these jerks. When under attack, when a tsunami of leftist excrement invectives are flung at the people, there ain't no way the gov. can tie people's hands against that. Unfortunately, today's PC government is tying our hands and our generals. When dealing with sewage, we cannot expect that we are going to be virtuous. We have to enjoy scraping the crap and develop an immunity to it, which is different than actively cleaning it in ethnic or ideological cleansing.

[lavaroise]

Observability: No laws
Controlability: LAws

The two are opposite.

[happygrl]

Something about that religion makes them easily manipulated.

WHO is the real manipulator ?

[Mark17]

Sounds like the peaceful person who killed Anwar Sadat, or the one who killed Robert F. Kennedy, or that other peaceful person who tried to kill the Pope. All from that peace religion.

Yes Fitz, as Ambrose was saying, I am seeing a pattern develop here.

[knighthawk]

With Fortuyn gone, the Netherlands will go down the same drain as France is going. At least he shook a lot of people awake, and moved the country to the right for a while.

[knighthawk]

He manged to achieve a lot of people on the right who didn't raise their voice now speak out. You should see the battles between the left and right at Dutch forums.

[knighthawk]

On the question about the killer.

Some people believe it's a complot by the government at that time.

Some people believe there is a large extreme-left movement behind him.

But what's for sure, the media and leftists politicians and parties made the puvlic believe Fortuyn was a danger for our society. They compared him to Mussolini, Haider and nazi's. And they kept demonizing him until one guy was crazy enough to pull the trigger.

[knighthawk]

Extreme-left orgnizations. And they have been protected by the PvdA (Labor), Socialistic Party and Greenleft.

[Brian Allen]

<< A backward religion? Didn't he know that Islam is the religion of peace? No wonder he got killed. >>

Yair.

Mass hesperophobia anyone?

If there's one thing guaranteed to get them religionists of pieces doing their things with the guns -- and with their bomb-laden children of pieces -- intolerence -- of them -- and or actual knowledge of what they are about will likely do it. Backward? Smackward!

Vale, Pim!