[chigung]

Fox News isn't considered "mainstream media"?
Its owned by the same company that has put out such "quality programming" as "Married with children", "Celebrity Boxing", and "Who wants to marry a millionaire".

Give me a break.

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

[Grampa Dave]

DUer or CINO (Conservative in Name Only) chigung signed up 2003-01-17, serving as one of Soddomite's Fedayeen!

Peaceful protests are fine. Organized Renta Mobbers financed by Answer and other fronts of the rich Opecker killer/thugs are not protesters. They are the Islamokazis of America supporting Jihad in America and killer thugs in the Middle East!

[lewislynn]

Its owned by the same company that has put out such "quality programming" as "Married with children", "Celebrity Boxing", and "Who wants to marry a millionaire".

Care to list some of the high quality programming of the other networks?...I didn't think so.

[elephant]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

Yes, and thank God that FOX news is around so our voice does not get lost!

[chuknospam]

Fox News isn't considered "mainstream media"? Its owned by the same company that has put out such "quality programming" as "Married with children", "Celebrity Boxing", and "Who wants to marry a millionaire". Give me a break. Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

And likewise I have the right to call these protesters marxist, communist, jobless leaches sucking on the teat of government. Furthermore, Fox News is trashing CNN in the ratings, and FOX is as much mainstream as CNN is. It is shameful that the media feels that they MUST put a negative spin on everything.

[chuknospam]

Fox News isn't considered "mainstream media"? Its owned by the same company that has put out such "quality programming" as "Married with children", "Celebrity Boxing", and "Who wants to marry a millionaire". Give me a break. Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

And likewise I have the right to call these protesters marxist, communist, jobless leaches sucking on the teat of government. Furthermore, Fox News is trashing CNN in the ratings, and FOX is as much mainstream as CNN is. It is shameful that the media feels that they MUST put a negative spin on everything.

[Ditto]

Fox News isn't considered "mainstream media"? Its owned by the same company that has put out such "quality programming" as "Married with children", "Celebrity Boxing", and "Who wants to marry a millionaire".

So the real "mainstream media" that put out Survivor, The Bachelor and Dog Eat Dog are more credible?

[daviddennis]

Of course they should be able to express their opinions!

But that doesn't prevent people from expressing their opinion of their opinions, and neither should it.

Freedom of speech is a two-way street, you know.

I will say that when I have gone to those protests (for a video project I'm doing), the atmosphere is very threatening. There's an almost violent feeling in the air. We disregard this at our peril.

D

[Pastor of Muppets]

"Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it."

"There is nothing in the constitution that says we cannot protest our government, economy or our leaders."

Sheesh, how could we possibly forget that?

You guys always enjoy deflecting criticism by answering The Question That Nobody Asks. I don't recall E.D. demanding internment, beat-downs, or even forced bathing. They're just reminding the folks at home who's footing the bill.

And from the responses, it doesn't sound as if anyone's too proud of the Sugar Daddy writing the checks. Heavens, why not?

It's fun to watch appeaseniks invoke the First Amendment like mobsters invoke the Fifth; despite the former group not actually being on trial. Persecution fantasies aside, skeptics just want the story:

Why are you doing this?
What good do you think you're doing?
Are you really funded by Communist and Marxist groups?

But sticking to the actual questions isn't nearly as fun as irrelevant, righteous posturing behind the First Amendment. It's kind of a twofer: avoid embarrassment, get to say "Constitution" now and then.

[francisr]

aye - but you miss the point - there is a difference between protest and organized groups who want the US to fall into anarchy - read the websites of ANSWER and others and decide for yourself - they are who FOX media says they are.

[brownie]

peacefully protesting is one thing, purposefully harassing people, blocking traffic, etc. is another. The Constitution does not protect the latter. Also, they are free to protest, and news organizations are free to point out who it is that organized the protest and what their ultimate goal and purposes are.

[Sicon]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

Yeah, they have the right to express their opinions, to protest. But they do not have the right to BREAK THE LAW by obstructing traffic. If they had assembled and protested WITHOUT seeking to force their protest into everyone's faces, I could live with it.

Arrest all of them, and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

[capitan_refugio]

There is no "right to protest" per se. There is, however, a Constitutionally guaranteed right to assemble, peaceably. Just as the "right to free speech" is not a right to "yell fire in a crowded theater," the "right to peaceably assemble" does not mean you can lie in the street and act as if you are dead, endangering yourself and others, and infringing on others' rights.

[mh]

the right to protest is not the right to lie in the street obstructing me.

[kAcknor]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

kAcknor Sez:

I think you are absolutely correct. The ability to protest and hold an unpopular opinion is at the heart of the first amendment, and one of the reasons I spent 21 years in the USAF.

OTOH, the right to chide people for speaking out against that unpopular opinion is equally important, and just as protected. One's actions or opinions are NOT protected from verbal or personal choice in the form of a backlash. There is, and will always be a cost. Can't avoid it without stifling the very rights we claim to be upholding in the first place.

If you express an unpopular argument your goal is to persuade and the result may indeed be just that. However, the result may easily be ridicule and derision.

Tough. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

"tIqIpqu' 'ej nom tIqIp" (Hit them hard and hit them fast.)

Have you checked the *bang_list today?

[ffusco]

Comparing Fox news to Fox programming?
Ever heard of "apples and oranges?"

[Naspino]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

People don't understand the word "protest". I have to the right to submit a protest to your comments and have the protest heard without the GOVERNMENT blocking it. I don't have the right to interfere with the daily flow of traffic or people. I don't have the right to impose my protest on others. I don't have the right at any moment to organize a gathering of people and march up and down streets. I have the right to request a permit to do so and I should I be denied I have the right to take the matter to the courts.

Protesters that don't follow the law have the right (in my mind) to be loaded into a crate and thrown into the ocean.

[El Gato]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

Nobody, or very few at least, says they should be stopped, just that they should be exposed for who they really are and what their true agenda is. That's also freedom of speech, they are free to speak, and we are free to speak out against what they say and who they are.

[Jay D. Dyson]

Lets also not forget, the right to protest is exactly what those solders are fighting for. Just because we might not agree with there opinion, doesn't mean they should not be able to express it.

No argument there. I fully support the First Amendment and all that it entails. That said, my major beef with the "peace protesters" these days is that they are going far beyond voicing their views and are instead engaging in wantonly disruptive conduct (blocking roads and access to various facilities). This doesn't strike me as sincere dissent; it strikes me as nothing more than a temper tantrum because they aren't getting their way. What's even more disgusting is that these "protesters" sell their antics as "political commentary"...and the "mainstream" media laps it up.

I think Hansell Duckett (Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court) said it best: "What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to."

-Jay

[WarSlut]

I'm getting damned tired of the left playing the FREEDOM OF SPEECH! card... as if the 1st Amendment stopped somewhere just short of our right to criticize the miserable Stalinist bastards.

[hadepe60]

Yeah, but what about the fact that they tie up law enforcement so much that prople who are victims of crime cannot get the assistance they need? Where does it say that their right to protest takes my rights away. Yep! I'm a disabled veteran and I, too believe in their right to protest, i.e. peacefully protest, not the kind of protesting we see now. And when the shooting starts and guys are being wounded and killed, it's time to tone it down even more. There is such a thing as respect. Of, course, most of these idiots know nothing of that word.