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Allied jets target Republican Guard convoys
IC Wales.co.uk ^ | March 27th, 2003

Posted on 03/26/2003 5:11:22 PM PST by Sabertooth

Allied jets target Republican Guard convoys
Mar 27 2003

The Western Mail - The National Newspaper Of Wales

IRAQI military in Baghdad and Basra were last night risking being wiped out in air attacks by leaving the confines of the cities to confront coalition troops.

Saddam Hussein's elite Republican Guard left the capital in a column of 1,000 vehicles.

And up to 120 Iraqi troop vehicles drove out of Basra in a southern direction.

Harriers and Tornados flying out of Kuwait attacked the armoured convoys.

An RAF source said, "A significant number of British aircraft are involved."

It appeared the vehicles were heading towards British troops on the Al Faw peninsula.

It is thought Iraqi commanders decided sandstorms around Baghdad would provide cover for the elite troops to journey to the area of the heaviest fighting of the war so far.

They may have believed the appalling weather conditions would protect their troops from being decimated by allied air power, much of which has been grounded by sand-storms.

But military intelligence had spotted 3,000 Republican Guard moving from the capital to the city of Al Kut, and a further 2,000 were seen to the south of Al Kut.

The Iraqi advance appeared to signal that Saddam Hussein's best trained and most loyal force was ready to go on the offensive despite days of allied air strikes and missile attacks on its positions.

The Iraqis have already issued their first report of battlefield action by the Republican Guards. A spokesman said a special forces unit attacked coalition troops in south-central Iraq, destroying six armoured vehicles and inflicting an unspecified number of casualties.

A US military officer said there had been a fierce battle yesterday for control of a bridge over the River Euphrates at Abu Sukhayr, 13 miles south-east of Najaf. He said an unspecified number of tanks and Bradleys had been destroyed. He believed the US crews, under the command of the 3rd Infantry Division, had escaped the vehicles - but their fate was unknown.

Meanwhile Washington announced yesterday it was flying another 30,000 troops from the US to the war zone.

The Pentagon admitted it was shifting its battlefield tactics after commanders on the ground said they were surprised by the stiff resistance put up Saddam's paramilitaries.



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To: Sabertooth
 

WARPLANES ATTACK CONVOY

British warplanes are attacking a large column of Iraqi troops heading out of Basra as 5,000 Republican Guards are reported to be heading for a possible showdown with US Marines.

Warplanes Attack ConvoyBritish radar picked up a convoy of some 70 -120 vehicles moving south from Basra on Wednesday evening.

The convoy is heading towards the al-Faw peninsula and the military says it could either be a counter attack by the Iraqi army to recapture lost territory or a movement away from Basra to avoid a limited uprising that began on Tuesday afternoon.

The Officer Commanding 40 Commando's battle room, Major Mick Green, said: "We have no idea why this column has come out at the moment.

"Their intentions or motives are totally unclear but they have adopted an offensive posture and do not want to surrender, so we have attacked them."

'Suicide'

Major Green added: "The inexplicable thing is why they have decided to move so much armour before darkness. To move tanks around in daylight is suicide."

The convoy is heading towards territory secured at the weekend by Royal Marines from 40 Commando.

From the air, US Navy F-18 Super Hornets and RAF Harrier ground attack jets are dropping precision-guided munitions and cluster bombs.

Reports Iraqi armour column moving south from Basra
Reports Iraqi armour column moving south from Basra


 

And from the ground, the column is being pounded by 155mm AS90 heavy artillery from 3rd Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery, and 105mm light field guns from 29 Commando Regiment, Royal Artillery.

It is thought the Iraqis may have felt the fierce sandstorms would have given them cover to launch co-ordinated movements.

Dr Andrew Dorman, a lecturer in defence studies, told Sky News: "There are two scenarios. One, is that the Iraqi regime is concerned about how the war is going and they are taking advantage of the sandstorms to engage Coalition forces.

"Or they are panicking and are wanting to shorten the war."

He warned that Coalition forces would have a limited amount of time to halt the movement.

"Once they come too close to Coalition forces it becomes a problem for Coalition airstrikes."

Republican Guards

A second group of around 1,000 Republican Guard vehicles containing up to 5,000 troops are heading south from Baghdad towards US Marines, American media reported.

US military intelligence claims their route avoids advancing US Army forces and leads them directly toward the Marines, who have been worn down from intense fighting around Nasiriya.

The sources claimed around 3,000 Republican Guard troops were moving from Baghdad to the city of Al Kut, and 2,000 more were seen south of Al Kut.

But US Central Command denied "significant movements" of Republican Guard.


21 posted on 03/26/2003 5:21:34 PM PST by JudgeAmint (from DA Judge!!)
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To: ffusco
"Mess with the Bull, You get the Horns!"

And don't ever mess with a horny bull!

22 posted on 03/26/2003 5:23:38 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: Sabertooth
Hit them hard!
23 posted on 03/26/2003 5:23:54 PM PST by Sir Beowolf
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To: ffusco
"That's one better than ten, isn't it?"
24 posted on 03/26/2003 5:24:52 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Sabertooth
I like the way the author started using the past tense when he referred to the Republican Guard.

...they were heading towards British troops...

25 posted on 03/26/2003 5:25:02 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: ffusco; Milwaukee_Guy; MonroeDNA
......My amp goes to eleven!

Dudes...

...you rock.




26 posted on 03/26/2003 5:26:28 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: dep
The simple explanation is that their command, control and intelligence functions have been completely destroyed.

Does anyone else find it repugnant that in a confrontation between the Iraqis and the British 7th Armoured Division, that it is the Iraqis who are referred to as "elite"?

27 posted on 03/26/2003 5:27:15 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Sabertooth
Hey Saddom: smell the glove.
28 posted on 03/26/2003 5:28:28 PM PST by ChadGore (288,007,154 Americans did not protest the war today)
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To: Sabertooth
"Their intentions or motives are totally unclear but they have adopted an offensive posture and do not want to surrender, so we have attacked them."

Works for me!

29 posted on 03/26/2003 5:30:44 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: ChadGore
Two words, Saddam: "Sh*t Sandwich"
30 posted on 03/26/2003 5:33:00 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Beware of Disinformation and propaganda)
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To: CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour; kmiller1k; mhking; ...
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31 posted on 03/26/2003 5:33:01 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
The Iraqis have already issued their first report of battlefield action by the Republican Guards. A spokesman said a special forces unit attacked coalition troops in south-central Iraq, destroying six armoured vehicles and inflicting an unspecified number of casualties.

I've just heard that Officials can't find any evidence of a large-scale convoy. Small or big, I hope we get them.

32 posted on 03/26/2003 5:33:07 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: JudgeAmint
U.S. Marines Warned About Iraqi Convoy ALEXANDRA ZAVIS
The Associated Press
Wednesday, March 26, 2003; 7:24 PM

U.S. Marines heading north toward Baghdad were warned Wednesday about a huge Iraqi convoy moving south, putting allied forces on a collision course with Saddam Hussein's best-trained, best-equipped and most tenacious fighters: the Republican Guard.

A military intelligence officer with the 1st Marine Expeditionary force ran from helicopter to helicopter, warning pilots that Republican Guard units in a 1,000-vehicle convoy were headed south on Highway 7, which runs southeast of Baghdad, toward the city of al-Kut.

The Iraqi troops were likely taking advantage of the vicious sandstorms that have blunted U.S. air power for several days to reposition their tanks in response to U.S. forces approaching the outskirts of the capital.

In the north, about 1,000 U.S. paratroopers from the 173rd Airborne dropped into an airbase in the Kurdish autonomous zone, the first large ground force in the region from which war planners want to open another front against Saddam Hussein's regime.

And in the south, coalition aircraft pounded a convoy of Iraqi tanks and armored vehicles streaming out of the besieged southern city of Basra, according to British military sources. The city has been ringed by British troops trying to secure the city and deliver humanitarian aid to trapped residents.

Elsewhere on the battlefield, there were reports of skirmishes into the early morning in Karbala, in the center of the country, where U.S. forces destroyed two tanks and four armored personnel carriers, killing an unknown number of Iraqi soldiers.

There was major fighting Tuesday night near Najaf, just south of Karbala; U.S. troops there fought regular Iraqi forces and destroyed a number of tanks and armored personnel carriers, though it was uncertain how many.

Marines were fighting house to house in Nasiriyah, further south. A reporter for WTVD in Durham, N.C., attached to the Camp Lejeune Marines, said at least 25 Marines had been injured. He said Marines were using flares to light areas so they could see their enemy.

One military analyst, asked about the movements of Iraqi troops believed to be Republican Guard, called it a bold move - one that could not have been attempted if American tank-killing A-10 Warthogs and Apache attack helicopters were able to fly.

"It's not good news," said the analyst, retired Army Gen. John Abrams. "It means (the Iraqi) command and control is working, that electronic warfare has not impacted the command and control, and they are able to reposition in a timely way."

U.S. officials gave conflicting reports about the Iraqi troop movements. Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, briefing reporters in Qatar, said, "We've not seen any significant movements of the type of force" described. He added, though, there were "local positionings and survival positionings" of various units.

Intelligence officials offered the possibility that paramilitary fighters, so-called Fedayeen, had been moving in recent days, traveling in pickup trucks, SUVs and other civilian vehicles.

An Iraqi military communique issued Wednesday reported the first battlefield action by Republican Guard troops, which it said attacked "enemy concentrations" in central Iraq, destroying six armored vehicles and killing "a great many troops."

The Republican Guard is the best that Saddam has to offer.

At the outset of the Gulf War in 1991, its five divisions had about 120 tanks each for a total of about 700 to 800 - mostly Soviet T-72s and older T-62s.

About half of those were destroyed by allied air strikes and ground action, and the remaining ones have been cannibalized to assemble a viable operational force, said Abrams, an armor officer who saw combat in the Vietnam and Gulf wars.

The T-72s were the best tanks built by the Soviets and the only ones that come near to matching the Americans' M1A1 Abrams tanks - coincidentally named for the analyst's famous father, the late Gen. Creighton Abrams.

Abrams said the Iraqis could be expected to try to conceal their armor in buildings and other urban hiding places, rather than out in the open, where they would be easy prey for roaming U.S. anti-tank aircraft.

"I would be surprised if those 300 to 400 tanks were accessible from the air," he said. "Whatever their capability, it is all about preservation."

Abrams said the Iraqis learned from their unhappy experience in Desert Storm and from the war in Kosovo how to set up decoys - old tanks and hulks pulled off the battlefield and loaded with fuel so as to explode when hit from the air.

"They can be masters of deception," he said.

In Basra, the British military sources estimated the fleeing Iraqi column at about 120 vehicles. Again, it appeared the Iraqis were using the sandstorm that has blanketed the region - this time to sneak out.

British forces have ringed Basra for several days, exchanging artillery fire with forces loyal to Saddam's regime. The British say they are coming to the defense of inhabitants who rose up in the streets against Saddam on Tuesday. British reporters have described citizens rampaging through the streets; Iraq has denied any civil unrest.

Basra had been largely quiet Wednesday, after British forces "neutralized" militia fighters who had lobbed mortars at residents on Tuesday, said Lt. Col. Ronnie McCourt, a spokesman for British forces in the Gulf.

The unrest came as the British tried to gain control of Basra and relieve the city's trapped civilian population of 1.3 million, which was fast running out of food and was in danger of outbreaks of cholera and diarrhea from contaminated water.

"The bunch of desperadoes who've lived above the law rule the roost in this dictatorship, this regime that Saddam Hussein has been running," McCourt said.

The city's electricity was knocked out Friday during U.S.-British bombing. That in turn shut down Basra's water pumping and treatment plants. The U.N. Children's Fund estimated up to 100,000 Basra children under age 5 were at immediate risk of severe disease.

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AP writer Richard Pyle contributed to this report from New York.




34 posted on 03/26/2003 5:34:44 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Old friend, This time the snake does not escape the eagle.
Let's Roll, and God bless the troops
35 posted on 03/26/2003 5:34:58 PM PST by Sir Beowolf
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To: Sabertooth
The moment the tanks, APCs, trucks, mopeds, etc., left cover, they immediately turned into clay pigeons ... er ... no, wait a mo ... brilliant move, Saddam. We can't see them in a sandstorm. Why, they are invisible to us! Send out more! Now's your chance. Lead a column! What amazing footage you could provide to the Arab press. Or if you can't do it, send out one of your sons. Victory is in our your grasp. Pay no attention to that pesky J-STARS. Why, it's a converted 707, probably older that those little children you like so much. Come out! Now's your chance!

signed, Joe Isuzu

36 posted on 03/26/2003 5:35:13 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: NonValueAdded
The moment the tanks, APCs, trucks, mopeds, etc., left cover, they immediately turned into clay pigeons ... er ... no, wait a mo ... brilliant move, Saddam. We can't see them in a sandstorm. Why, they are invisible to us! Send out more! Now's your chance. Lead a column! What amazing footage you could provide to the Arab press. Or if you can't do it, send out one of your sons. Victory is in our your grasp. Pay no attention to that pesky J-STARS. Why, it's a converted 707, probably older that those little children you like so much. Come out! Now's your chance!

Saddam is fighting a 1970 war against 2000 technology. Plus, he's got nothing in the air - nothing. We have the J-STARS but I suspect that we have some ground intelligence as well. There's a few that want to be part of the New Iraq after the dust settles.

37 posted on 03/26/2003 5:37:59 PM PST by meyer
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I've just heard that Officials can't find any evidence of a large-scale convoy.

Sourtce? I've been hearing reports all day.

Saddam sends out his tanks
By Michael Smith and Neil Tweedie in Qatar
(Filed: 27/03/2003)

Saddam Hussein launched a counter offensive last night, throwing the Republican Guard into the battle for Baghdad in the hope of exploiting sandstorms that have grounded allied Apache attack helicopters.

Two columns, each of 1,000 armoured vehicles, including T72 tanks, headed south from the capital towards the two main allied thrusts in the centre of the country.

Fierce fighting was raging between American troops and Republican Guard special forces 100 miles south of Baghdad, near the town of Najaf. In the south, ground attack aircraft were trying to halt a column of up to 120 armoured vehicles which broke out of the port city of Basra.

The allied cause faced a further setback when 15 civilians were killed and up to 30 wounded in explosions in the residential area of al-Shaab in the north of Baghdad.

Allied commanders admitted, after 10 hours of prevarication, that precision guided bombs were responsible for a huge crater there. But they said that they had been aimed at Iraqi surface-to-surface missiles which had been positioned as close as 300ft to civilians' homes.

President George W Bush rejected claims that he had under-estimated the task of overthrowing Saddam. "We will overcome every danger and we will prevail," he said.

Mr Bush told American soldiers and their families at MacDill air force base in Florida, the home of US central command, that victory was certain and that Saddam's regime was facing a "day of reckoning".

Tony Blair said before flying to Washington for talks with Mr Bush that the situation was being kept under review and present military advice was that the allies had enough forces for the job.

"I believe that is the advice also given by the US military to the US president," the Prime Minister said. "The resistance is coming from exactly the quarter we would expect: those security forces and people around Saddam who know they have everything to lose by the removal of his regime."

With news of the Republican Guard break-outs from Baghdad, America's 1st Marine Division on the right of the allied flank and the US 3rd Infantry Division on the left were heading for what could be the two crucial battles of the war.

The Republican Guard's Baghdad division was moving towards the marines and its Medina division was reported to be heading towards the infantry, which was consolidating its positions south of Karbala.

Allied commanders said that 800 Iraqis had been killed in a series of running battles between the Republican Guard and the 3rd Infantry Division, which was attempting to force a third central thrust towards Baghdad.

The armoured column that broke out of Basra was apparently aiming to retake the Faw peninsula. It was under attack from RAF Harrier GR7 aircraft and American A10 "tankbuster" aircraft.

A headlong clash between American troops and the Republican Guard would be the sternest test so far of the allies' controversial decision to take on the Iraqis using predominantly light forces.

The key assumption behind the plan was that, without air support, the Republican Guard could not dare venture out of Baghdad for fear of being destroyed by allied aircraft.

The Republican Guard break-out will test that theory to the limit. If air power does not work, the American marines could be too light a force to take on the T72s.

The counter attack was launched as the allies all but admitted that they had under-estimated the Iraqis, saying they were revising their strategy to take on the special forces and Fedayeen which have been attacking their supply lines.

The Pentagon announced that the 4th Infantry Division, which was to have been sent into northern Iraq from Turkey, would be flown to Kuwait today. Its tanks and equipment are believed to be about to dock there.
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38 posted on 03/26/2003 5:39:38 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
But military intelligence had spotted 3,000 Republican Guard moving from the capital to the city of Al Kut, and a further 2,000 were seen to the south of Al Kut

Who says all/most of the RG was actually defending Baghdad from within Baghdad?
?...Is that a fact or an opinion?

Maybe,.....the RG is hidden throught areas of the cities around/enroute 'to' Baghdad?

The sending out of a column of empty vechiles may be an illusion of where the RG troops are.

Maybe,....the 'Irregulars' are in reality the RG masses?

The whole thing a giant 'trap' ala Gen. Giap.

39 posted on 03/26/2003 5:40:28 PM PST by maestro
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To: Sabertooth
Like fish in a bucket!
40 posted on 03/26/2003 5:40:37 PM PST by Cold Heat
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