How France blocked U.S. in Ankara

New York Sun ^ | 26 March 2003 | Michael Ledeen

[george wythe]

The French and German governments informed the Turkish opposition parties that if they voted to help the Coalition war effort, Turkey would be locked out of Europe for a generation. As one Turkish leader put it, "there were no promises, only threats."

We already knew about the French perfidy.

Sending Dominique to Africa was an act of hostility toward the US, since France was not happy with staying on the sidelines. France was actively lobbying everyone against the US.

[SirAllen]

Why am I not surprised.

We need to get this war over as soon as possible, and then prepare for the next one. North Korea, Iran, then France, Germany, and Russia followed closely by China. Unfortunately I fear it's coming. France and it's lapdogs have all but publicly declared it.

[breakem]

Have we bombed the French embassy yet?

[Destro]

Neo-Con disinformation by the SUN.

The Turks (from a Turkish news source) set the record straight:

Turkey Determined Its Policy On Iraq Long Time Ago (Blame the military not the "ruling" party)

[Dog Gone]

If this is true, we should pull out of NATO and replace it with a new security alliance.

RFN.

I never want to help the French, nor count on them for help. Never.

This is not something which can be forgiven.

[Destro]

Ignore this article and read what the Turks say for themselves. The Turkish position on the Kurds has been in play for a long time.

[Destro]

see #5

[MJY1288]

I agree, this article is bunk

[Libertarianize the GOP]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list

[mhking]

[Dog Gone]

I read that article when it was first posted. I'm not sure I'm convinced. In any event, the two articles aren't really contradictory.

Why do you think the French couldn't or wouldn't do what was alleged in this article?

[Arkinsaw]

I agree that this is probably what was done with Turkey. There was also sabotage from our own State Dept. But Turkey took the decision on their own and have full responsibility for it in the end. They made their choice. Now they will see just how trustworthy France and Germany are.

[Illbay]

The author of this article must be the guy that Laura Ingraham had on her radio show today.

[Tamaqua]

So I believe Turkish politicians because. . .

[Shermy]

Ping.

[the_doc]

It is irrational to pronounce the article bunk. You sound like you are just defending the French [grin].

(Even if the Turks have designs on Kurdish Iraq, it does not follow that their MPs' arms were not twisted very hard by France and Germany.)

[Destro]

Oh, I don't know--because they are talking about their nation's policy towards Iraq??

[Tamaqua]

Think "preponderance of the evidence" not "reasonable doubt."

[Tamaqua]

Yes.

And "our" politicians always speak the absolute truth when they speak on issues of national "policy." Can I hold your wallet while you tie your shoes?