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Oh, I understand the difference between Chobham/composite armor and simple steel plate. That does'nt really apply on comparing the penetration rates between shells relying on kinetic penetration (120 mm DS1 firing FSSDPU rounds) vs chemical penetration (missile/main gun HEAT warheads).

For the later, a claim of 43 inch steel plate WITH reactive armor reinforcement(!) penetration rate seems to be outside the realm of credibility for a missile HEAT warhead. (Not that it would'nt WARM on the inside of the 43 inches ;-) )

Can't talk any more...Bomb Threat in our Building (Downtown LA). Gotta Run!!!

You got me-I have exhausted most of my knowledge of armour and armour shot. As a former infantry man and now transportation officer my training on armour is limited at best (shoot for the rear side and upper rear). Correct me if I am wrong-I understand HEAT has generally been replaced by other types of round, even in AT missles? Maybe the round attacks specific parts of the tank-like Javelin exploding above and sending its load downward through the lightest part of the tanks armour.

I do know that the improved TOW round, which has been copied with great success by the Russians and Chinese, can kill any tank in the world at a greater range than most main gun rounds. Maybe this Russian AT round is the result.

No bomb threats here in Germany-just communist sympathizing protesters.