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To: SpyGuy
The French Government is not (nominally) socialist. Chiraq is (incredible, but true) a man of the Right in France.

I would be surprised if support for the US policy in Iraq is as high as 10% in France. Only a few Atlanticists in Chiraq's party have spoken out in support of the US. The press on the Right and Left both oppose the war.

Having been in both France and Germany two weeks ago, I know this to be true. Colleagues of mine who are usually pro-US have their panties in a bunch. There is a significant rift in the West right now.

21 posted on 03/26/2003 10:51:03 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
The right and the left in France are both on the left in this mess.
23 posted on 03/26/2003 10:54:09 AM PST by the_doc
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To: You Dirty Rats
"The French Government is not (nominally) socialist"

Perhaps not in the strict definition of the term. (And I admit to not following French politics too closely lately.) But I believe that the French government is still dominated by members of the French Socialist Party.

"Chiraq is (incredible, but true) a man of the Right in France."

Calling him a "man of the Right in France" doesn't say much: he is still a lefty on the absolute political scale. The problem today is that the relative scale of politics have shifted so far to the Left, that the terms left, right, liberal, and conservative have virtually no valid meaning in the political arena. Look at America's own two primary political parties. Most so-called "conservative" Republicans today would have been considered way-left of the Democrats of forty years ago. Many of today's Demoncrats, would have been (correctly) prosecuted for un-American activities fifty years ago.

Even President Bush, who is denounced by the left as an extreme right-winger, is in fact a moderate liberal when judged by the whole of his policies. While I voted for Bush (considering the alternative was Gore) and I strongly support his position on Iraq and Al-Qaeda, I find his domestic--and much of his foreign policy--to be right out of the DNC playbook.

32 posted on 03/26/2003 12:29:52 PM PST by SpyGuy
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