[Mother Abigail]

The statement "It is not normal that one disease is caused by two viruses" is not strictly true.

Satellite viruses and satellite nucleic acids which may influence virulence and transmissibility have been described for viruses infecting insects and plants, but not for vertebrate viruses with the exception of hepatitis B virus and delta virus.

A more modest and defensible conclusion would be that on the basis of current evidence it is possible that neither of these 2 candidate etiologic agents are determinants of SARS.

Paramyxoviruses and coronaviruses are fairly benign ubiquitous residents of the human respiratory tract that might be detected fortuitously in both symptomatic and asymptomatic patients.

[aristeides]

Comments?

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

What does SARS stand for. That might help the rest of us who are not carrying our secret decoder rings this morning.

[Mother Abigail]

Submitted for your consideration

[blam]

Bump.

[Drammach]

Just an uneducated guess..
Is the difficulty with identifying the cause due to the virus(?) still going through a mutational change?

We know the common cold and flu viruses are constantly going through changes, and that is why they are so hard to cure.
Is this possibly the new strategem for this virus as well?

[TheBigB]

I understand that this outbreak is causing concern, but for gosh sakes; I think lots of this is just fear-mongering by the media. First it was AIDS. Then the "flesh-eating bacteria" that was supposed to kill us all. Then West Nile. Now SARS. This isn't Ebola, with a 95% mortality rate. Pretty soon we'll all be scared to walk outside..."Oh no, what if I get in line at the bank with someone who flew to China last week?" "What if someone caughs behind me on the bus?"

[riri]

Paramyxoviruses and coronaviruses are fairly benign ubiquitous residents of the human respiratory tract that might be detected fortuitously in both symptomatic and asymptomatic patients

So, if I am reading this correctly, you think we could be looking at an AIDS type illness. Immune system destroyer and what they are seeing are remnants of opportunist infections? Interesting to note, as in AIDS, it does seem to be the pneumonia that eventually does the victim in.

Do you recall how long it was before they made the breakthrough of finding the HIV virus in early AIDS patients?

[Domestic Church]

So you still think these findings are artifacts and a third entity is the actual cause? Do you think these two set the stage for the third entity to be activated? Is the third entity in the immune system itself?

[Domestic Church]

"...but not for vertebrate viruses with the exception of hepatitis B virus and delta virus. "

1) What are the odds of a satellite nucleic acid or virus developing a trigger mechanism on man...naturally.


2) Might such a satellite tie into the west nile virus?

[grimalkin]

Thanks for the update.

[maestro]

Thanks,.....
From another thread:
To: JohnHuang2
?...Growing Children...?
SCHOOL'S OUT
The Singapore government went further on Wednesday evening. It said it would halt classes for the city state's 500,000 children to try to alleviate parent concern, despite saying in a statement there were no medical reasons to close schools.
Children put 'things' in their mouth......checking crayons,...paste,...erasers,...candy.....??....and take them/it 'home'.
Todlers are diapered,......check the diapers too.
BIO-SCIENCE could be checking 'dormant' genes/DNA of growing children....testicle/seed growth,...teeth,...hair,...ear/eye diseases (other finger areas).
(Powered Milk Formula,...and,...Pet Food)

?....do sweat glands develope by degrees...ie. are there 'bio-keys' involved?

[Ferret Fawcet]

colloidal silver. read about it. make it. take it. do it now.

[Prince Charles]

Bump...

[Eric Cassano]

The third hypothesis, very obviously, is that these 2 pathogens have to come together to cause this very severe outbreak.

Reminds me of the old Certs mint commercial.....

“It’s two…two… two bugs in one.”

[twntaipan]

Hypotheis 3 says the two viruses depresses the immune system, and Hong Kong, and probably other places in Asia, they have been treating with steroids (along with anti-virals). Do not steroids further depress the immune system?